If the car talks the the charger it should be able to dictate the flow of 
electrons.  If someone comes up with the device maybe Tesla will change it's 
policy.  It's more of a challenge rather than stealing electricity.  That being 
said I never thought of the stealing aspect.  The III is upcoming and will pay 
for power.  I'd love to utilize a Supercharger.  It would make a cross country 
trip more possible. I work for EVRUS.  We welcome any kind of electric car that 
can plug to Chademo.  Currently we service Nissan, Kia & Tesla...or any Chademo 
ready vehicle you can't steal from us unless you can hack our system.  For 
Tesla it's a matter of plugging in as no adapter is yet available(that we know 
of)for other vehicles.  So is it stealing if no sign says Tesla only.  In some 
cases Tesla spots can be ICED.  They sometimes can't be legally towed. So 
unless there is a posting saying no vehicles other than Tesla is it stealing?   
 Lawrence Rhodes

      From: robert winfield <winfield...@yahoo.com>
 To: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>; "ev@lists.evdl.org" 
<ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org" <ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org>; 
Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 6:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.
   
Is this post seriously for real? Hacking a supercharger that puts out over 
120kW @ 400+V at roughly 300 amps



Who wants to be the first "krispy critter"? really good advertising for the EV 
community.
really folks, a TINY bit of thought please


      From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
 To: "ev@lists.evdl.org" <ev@lists.evdl.org>; "ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org" 
<ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 8:50 AM
 Subject: [EVDL] Hacking a supercharger. Have a charge on Elon.
  
There is an adapter for Chademo to charge a Tesla.  Does anyone think it can be 
done in reverse?  Could the supercharger be fooled into thinking it was 
charging a tiny tiny battery pack or a Tesla almost full?  I suspect the 
Supercharger will look at the car and see the truth and reject the charge but 
you never know what a hacker can do until it's done.  Lawrence Rhodes 
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