The claim that all hydrogen is not from natural gas? Someone else just posted some good examples of recent projects.
Just to be clear - I’m not “pushing” anything. I just feel the need to respond to some posts that make false claims or statements. I believe in both kinds of EV’s, battery electric and fuel cell. Both are *essential* to meet air quality standards, a journey I’ve spent almost 40 years on, and efforts to derail hydrogen are counter to the need for clean air. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Dec 2, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mark, last time a discussion like this came up, I pressed you for exact > references to back up your claims. You failed. Why are you pushing this again > ? I'm truly glad you are excited about new technologies and I believe there > are places for hydrogen as a fuel, just not for EVs. > Peri > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>; "Mark Abramowitz" > <[email protected]> > Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[email protected]> > Sent: 01-Dec-19 8:53:29 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Fw: [NEVs] California’s Clean Vehicle Rebate Program > >> All hydrogen comes from natural gas. That is a fossil fuel. You are full >> of it. Lawrence Rhodes >> >> On Sunday, December 1, 2019, 1:12:42 PM PST, Mark Abramowitz >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I don’t believe that government funding of hydrogen or battery zero emission >> technologies are a waste - it’s needed to clean the air. >> >> I will refer you to SIP for California to find out why funding has been >> needed for battery and fuel cell technologies. >> >> I won’t get into the whether the sizing and scale of EVSE is appropriate, >> except to point out that this happens with all technologies. >> >> You are incorrect when you say that hydrogen does not produce greenhouse gas >> reductions. The US DOE has run models which show significant reductions, >> though those would be US centric. I’m sure Canada has run similar numbers. >> The problem is that your assumptions have generally all been incorrect. >> >> Sorry, but I’m sure you will understand when I say that I won’t refer anyone >> to your book. I haven’t read it, but if what you’ve peddled here is a taste, >> I have a better reputation for providing people with straightforward and >> accurate info. >> >> - Mark >> >> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone >> >>> On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree government funding of hydrogen as a fuel is a waste of money. >>> Sadly, it's always taxpayer money, because the oil and gas industry >>> knows the idea is a loser, so won't pay to develop the technology or >>> infrastructure itself. I think that could be the basis of a key _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
