That’s what I said. Massive amounts of CO2 are produced just making the 
Hudrogen.

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> On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:53 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  All hydrogen comes from natural gas.  That is a fossil fuel.  You are full 
> of it.  Lawrence Rhodes
> 
>    On Sunday, December 1, 2019, 1:12:42 PM PST, Mark Abramowitz 
> <[email protected]> wrote:  
> 
> I don’t believe that government funding of hydrogen or battery zero emission 
> technologies are a  waste - it’s needed to clean the air.
> 
> I will refer you to SIP for California to find out why funding has been 
> needed for battery and fuel cell technologies.
> 
> I won’t get into the whether the sizing and scale of EVSE is appropriate, 
> except to point out that this happens with all technologies.
> 
> You are incorrect when you say that hydrogen does not produce greenhouse gas 
> reductions. The US DOE has run models which show significant reductions, 
> though those would be US centric. I’m sure Canada has run similar numbers. 
> The problem is that your assumptions have generally all been incorrect.
> 
> Sorry, but I’m sure you will understand when I say that I won’t refer anyone 
> to your book. I haven’t read it, but if what you’ve peddled here is a taste, 
> I have a better reputation for providing people with straightforward and 
> accurate info.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I agree government funding of hydrogen as a fuel is a waste of money.
>> Sadly, it's always taxpayer money, because the oil and gas industry
>> knows the idea is a loser, so won't pay to develop the technology or
>> infrastructure itself.  I think that could be the basis of a key
>> argument:  if hydrogen fuelling is such a great idea, why isn't the
>> 'energy' industry paying to build it out themselves?  Why is government
>> assistance appropriate for this massively expensive build?  They didn't
>> need government assistance to build gas stations.
>> 
>> In Canada, our federal government is ponying up peanuts now for an
>> inter-city charging installation, at exactly the wrong time.  They're
>> investing in 50 kW stations just as the private sector is ramping up to
>> 150 kW stations, with 300 kW on the horizon.  And the program that was
>> intended for EV charging stations is spending more on hydrogen fuelling
>> stations, all under the GHG reductions banner - highly misleading in the
>> case of hydrogen made from fossil and fracked natural gas.
>> 
>> If it's any help, you could point legislators' offices to my book.  The
>> ebook version is just US$6.
>> 
>> https://www.iuniverse.com/en/bookstore/bookdetails/126185-The-Emperor-s-New-Hydrogen-Economy
>> 
>>>> On 12/1/2019 8:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1. California’s Clean Vehicle Rebate Program
>>>       Posted by: "Lawrence Rhodes" [email protected] 
>>> lawrencerhodes1
>>>       Date: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:16 pm ((PST))
>>> 
>>> https://insideevs.com/news/382176/california-amends-cvrp-rebate-program/
>>> 
>>> This new round of incentives favors hydrogen with double the money.  This 
>>> is a horrible waste.  If you live in California please contact your 
>>> assemblyman/senator/govenor and lt. govenor. Maybe mention the hype about 
>>> hydrogen or other educational articles refuting hydrogen.  Our legislators 
>>> must be educated. Lawrence Rhodes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Darryl McMahon
>> Freelance Project Manager (sustainable systems)
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