About 2/3rds of all residences are single family homes by national census.
IE, fully 1/3rd generally cannot conveniently own an EV.

I used that figure in my talks until I got statistics relevant to
Maryland.  In Maryland (and presumably other mid-atlantic urban states) the
figure is closer to 50%.

That is a huge factor but is also something that clever DIY individuals can
help overcome on a case basis.
Bob

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:36 AM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Most people are not attached to ICEs. They will buy EVs when the price
> is compelling and they don't fear inconvenience of charging.
>
> On price, I suspect people will take fuel and maintenance into some
> account but not too much. The sticker price will have to be close. And,
> frankly, a new ICE will easily go for 10 years without any costly
> maintenance.
>
> On charging, it's easy for us EV adopters to ignore or work around
> charging issues. But, whether they need it or not, even two-car
> households are used to *each* car having the ability to go on a road
> trip. I see more and more people having a "moment of clarity" and
> realizing they can get by with one road-trip car, so that's changing.
> But on a road trip, few will be willing to wait for 30-60 minutes of
> charging every 2-3 hours. And, there's the plethora of apartment
> dwellers where charging infrastructure is difficult and costly to
> install.
>
> I really don't think people in general are resisting EVs, they just want
> a known entity.
>
> And, I think the same is true for the USPS. EV tech has changed a lot
> since their prior experiments and, now, there may be very little
> resistance by drivers. Right now, DeJoy is the problem, not the drivers.
>
> Peri
>
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "jamie via EV" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "jamie" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 25-Feb-21 12:03:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Your mail may arrive by EV - or it may not
>
> >
> >Good points about the importance of political/emotional as well as
> technical reasons. In fact the world is constantly changing and things can
> become emotionally cool and politically popular over time.
> >
> >Technology improves. Clunky satellite phones that cost way too much and
> didn't work that well have morphed into amazing little internet
> communication and computing devices that most people today take for granted
> and wouldn't be without.
> >
> >EVs are climbing the adoption curve. EVs have become cool. People who buy
> them tend to say they will never go back. Major automobile companies are
> investing heavily into EVs going forward. Local and national governments,
> and some auto manufacturers, are putting a cutoff deadline on building and
> selling new fossil fuel cars.
> >
> >Tesla, on stock value, has become worth more than the other major auto
> companies combined, or some such, and their cars out-perform gas cars on
> multiple metrics. They can't make them fast enough to satisfy demand. We're
> a long way past the early EV experiments, lead acid batteries, really slow
> charging, and pain cars.
> >
> >Amazon, FedEx, etc. are moving into EV delivery trucks. There are spiffy
> EV police cars popping up in local police departments. Turns out there's
> money to be saved, along with the technical advantages.
> >
> >So things change. For an institution that prides itself on having a
> long-term view, it's past time for the post office to get with the program.
> I'll bet that at this point a lot of post office employees would agree -
> along with the bean counters who can foresee significant operational
> savings which the post office REALLY needs.
> >
> >IOW, just because something didn't work before, within the context and
> technology of earlier times, doesn't automatically mean it won't/can't work
> now when the context and technology has changed and the momentum continues
> to accelerate.
> >
> >They used to deliver mail with horses.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >  -Jamie
> >
> >PS. Yes, gas engine mechanics may not be happy, (nor will the oil
> industry lobby). But if it's done right, delivery drivers and mail
> carriers, by and large, will be THRILLED to move beyond their ancient
> rattletraps into modern EVs.
> >
> >
> >On 2/25/21 12:05 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
> >>Steves via EV wrote:
> >>>Good article about postal vehicles and why they should be electric.
> >>>https://www.greatbusinessschools.org/usps-long-life-vehicle/
> >>>
> >>>Biggest take aways:
> >>>   - 96% of them drive less than 40 miles a day.
> >>>- current vehicles get 9 MPG
> >>>- 83% are urban (think pollution)
> >>>
> >>>Such a perfect fit for an EV
> >>
> >>Ah, but those are the technical reasons. What counts are the political
> and emotional reasons.
> >>
> >>The USPS has tried EVs quite a few times. They have always "failed"; not
> for technical reasons, but because the management and postal workers
> disliked them, and opposed them in every way possible. In extreme cases,
> the vehicles were even sabatoged to make *sure* they failed.
> >>
> >>My dad was a career postal employee. His "inside view" was that the
> postal union hated EVs; they were a disruptive technology that got in the
> way of "how we've always done things". EVs put limits on how and where
> postal workers could drive them. There was extra record-keeping, and it was
> harder to charge them than to put gas in. EVs also threatened the postal
> mechanic's jobs.
> >>
> >>Lower-level managers were also opposed. They didn't like to be told from
> "on high" how to do things. The postal bureaucracy is strong and deep, and
> mightily opposed to change. It's going to be mighty hard to overcome that
> prejudice and inertia.
> >>
> >>Lee Hart
> >>
> >
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