On 21 Apr 2021 at 17:50, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:

> Complain all you want, but unless you fire up your own company and start
> selling a compelling solution that people want it doesn't matter.  "They" sure
> aren't!

Funny, that's exactly how the Japanese automakers got their feet in the door 
here in the 1970s.  Is the US's best selling sedan today a Chevy or Ford?  
No it is not.  It's a Toyota.  That would have been unimaginable in 1965.

When the middle eastern oil producers shut off the spigot in 1973, what high 
MPG cars was Detroit building?  Ford Pintos and Chevy Vegas.  If you're not 
familiar with them, look them up.  You'll understand what happened next.

Toyota and Nissan/Datsun had decades of experience building good, reliable, 
small, fuel efficient cars.  Their dealers were tacking hundreds of dollars 
in additional profit onto their cars' MSRP, bluntly listed on the window 
stickers as "ADM" (Additional Dealer Markup).  Nevertheless, as each car 
rolled off the transport, the sales manager rang up the next eager buyer on 
the waiting list.

They also advertised them liberally.  For example, Nissan put up billboards 
on major highways reading "Datsun Saves - about a gallon a day."

Now the major automakers - this time including the Japanese - have left the 
bottom end of the market wide open.  No more are they offering small, 
efficient, low-cost vehicles to capture brand loyalty from young people in 
their first jobs.

So who will fill that gap?  I expect that Chinese and Indian automakers will 
repeat the Japanese manufacturers' 1970s success, with both EVs and small 
ICEVs.  If they can deliver decent quality vehicles like the Japanese did 
back then, they will own a piece of the market - one that could easily grow 
in the future.

Of course the US could also follow the European model, and put a thumb on 
the scale for EVs and fuel efficient ICEVs through legislation and taxes.  
But we probably won't.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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