Yes, I have a reservation for a Cybertruck.

I'm OK with the current design.  I can't defend its looks, but it's likely
to be so caprable that I don't care how it looks.  It's ugly like a Jeep.

-Luke


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:49 PM Luke Scharf <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'm holding out for the Tesla Cybertruck because it is not yet in
> production.
>
> My current requirement is for a 6000lb towing capacity and 5 seats.  My
> work-from-home arrangement means that commuting is not a significant part
> of the vehicle's mileage.
>
> But, the reality is that I'm driving an 11-year-old truck.  This truck is
> about as close as possible to the upcoming EV pickup trucks,
> technologically speaking.  But it does come with some disadvantages: some
> newer non-hybrid trucks do have better window-sticker numbers than my
> 2-mode hybrid -- those trucks cost more than I'm willing to spend on a
> short-term purchase.  Also, this machine is a rare beast, and so it's hard
> to find mechanics who have some experience with it (including my local GMC
> dealer).  Despite having been well taken care of by its previous owner,
> it's starting to see the same issues you see on all 11-year-old GMT900s.
> I'm waiting for the upcoming EV pickup trucks to hit the market so that I
> can swap it for my "forever" truck.  It really does feel like I'm holding
> out.
>
> That said, these big hybrids have really grown on me.  With the hybrid
> system under the hood, they're really nice vehicles to drive day-to-day.
> Also, operations like hitching up the trailer and backing up with a trailer
> are a lot easier than anything I've ever towed with before, due to the
> precise low-end control provided by the hybrid drivetrain.  I really can
> move the truck 1/4" backward when I need to, and I'm pleasantly surprised
> by how much time the engine spends in auto-stop mode when towing a
> trailer.  If more people had seat-time in these big hybrids, they'd be a
> lot more popular.
>
> -Luke
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:21 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> In what way are you "holding out" for the cybertruck ? Have you ordered
>> one or are you waiting for the next design iteration ?
>> Peri
>>
>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Luke Scharf" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
>> List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: 26-Apr-21 12:13:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] maybe convert odyssey ?
>>
>> >Do need 200 miles every day?  Or once a week?  Or once a month?
>> >
>> >The Pacifica PHEV has a total range of about 520 miles.  The first 32
>> >miles are electric, and the remaining miles are on gasoline.
>> >
>> >If you need 20 miles most days, and only need the 200 miles a couple of
>> >times a month, the PHEV would be a pretty smooth 90% solution.
>> >
>> >For my needs, I'm holding out for the Tesla truck, and driving one of
>> >the GM 2-Mode hybrids in the meantime.  I'll be happy to explain why
>> >that's a match for my situation.  Hopefully the Tesla truck will be a
>> >long-term do-everything vehicle.
>> >
>> >-Luke
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:57 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >>I need min 200 mile range with heat and defrost running. That's the RT
>> >>for most of my mountain activites, where there are few, if any
>> >>charging
>> >>opportunities (and frankly, with a 12-14 hour outing, I don't want to
>> >>add 30 minutes for charging). Also I'd like better ground clearance
>> >>than
>> >>the minivan, which is 6.5". I'd like some hauling capacity, but I
>> >>could
>> >>keep the minivan for occasional hauling.
>> >>
>> >>I might have another look at the tesla truck. It would be nice if they
>> >>allowed you to take out the back seat and open the back of the cab,
>> >>for
>> >>long loads. It's ugly (in my opinion) but I don't really care. It's
>> >>also
>> >>too long for my driveway, I think. Need to double check.
>> >>
>> >>Peri
>> >>
>> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>> >>
>> >>------ Original Message ------
>> >>From: "Alan Brinkman via EV" <[email protected]>
>> >>To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>> >>Cc: "Alan Brinkman" <[email protected]>
>> >>Sent: 26-Apr-21 11:13:44 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: [EVDL] maybe convert odyssey ?
>> >>
>> >> >Peri,
>> >> >At first I thought you meant the Odyssey 250cc off road atv by Honda.
>> >>You
>> >> >have a minivan. What about getting a newer Nissan Leaf and installing
>> >>a tow
>> >> >hitch. Then purchase a light enclosed or open utility trailer? Not
>> >>optimal
>> >> >but?
>> >> >Alan
>> >> >
>> >> >On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>
>>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>  I need to take a serious look at converting my 2000 honda odyssey.
>> >>Every
>> >> >>  year I throw a little more money into repairs hoping that a
>> >>suitable EV
>> >> >>  replacement will come on the market. So far, nothing that meets my
>> >> >>  needs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  I think I am going to have to replace most of the exhaust system,
>> >>which
>> >> >>  could cost a couple $k. Honestly, that's still the cheapest path,
>> >>but
>> >> >>  something like that occurs every year. That plus miscellaneous
>> >>other
>> >> >>  maintenance expenses plus gas, I wonder if I come out ahead, over
>> >>some
>> >> >>  years, converting it. I hate throwing more money into something
>> >>that
>> >> >>  still uses gas.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Here are a few questions on my mind, and surely they will expose
>> >>more :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  - what are the dims of the tesla model 3 82kWh battery ?
>> >> >>  - what is its cost, salvaged (but with near new capacity) ?
>> >> >>  - what is the cost of other components I need to salvage - motor,
>> >> >>  inverter, BMS, charger ... ?
>> >> >>  - what computer support is needed for the motor, inverter, BMS,
>> >>charger
>> >> >>  ?
>> >> >>  - is anyone willing to do the work ? for what cost ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  I suspect this car is old enough that its existing engine related
>> >> >>  computers can be removed. There are some smarts in the window and
>> >> >>  ventilation control, but they might operate without any central
>> >> >>  computer.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Peri
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>> >> >>
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