Even better, Many grand Caravan models have an electric lift gate. Perfect to load an extra pack. I feel like I will do this With my Caravan one day, too much to resist the Full StowNgo EV!
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Luke Scharf via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Yes, I have a reservation for a Cybertruck. > > I'm OK with the current design. I can't defend its looks, but it's likely > to be so caprable that I don't care how it looks. It's ugly like a Jeep. > > -Luke > > >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:49 PM Luke Scharf <lukesch...@clusterbee.net> >> wrote: >> >> I'm holding out for the Tesla Cybertruck because it is not yet in >> production. >> >> My current requirement is for a 6000lb towing capacity and 5 seats. My >> work-from-home arrangement means that commuting is not a significant part >> of the vehicle's mileage. >> >> But, the reality is that I'm driving an 11-year-old truck. This truck is >> about as close as possible to the upcoming EV pickup trucks, >> technologically speaking. But it does come with some disadvantages: some >> newer non-hybrid trucks do have better window-sticker numbers than my >> 2-mode hybrid -- those trucks cost more than I'm willing to spend on a >> short-term purchase. Also, this machine is a rare beast, and so it's hard >> to find mechanics who have some experience with it (including my local GMC >> dealer). Despite having been well taken care of by its previous owner, >> it's starting to see the same issues you see on all 11-year-old GMT900s. >> I'm waiting for the upcoming EV pickup trucks to hit the market so that I >> can swap it for my "forever" truck. It really does feel like I'm holding >> out. >> >> That said, these big hybrids have really grown on me. With the hybrid >> system under the hood, they're really nice vehicles to drive day-to-day. >> Also, operations like hitching up the trailer and backing up with a trailer >> are a lot easier than anything I've ever towed with before, due to the >> precise low-end control provided by the hybrid drivetrain. I really can >> move the truck 1/4" backward when I need to, and I'm pleasantly surprised >> by how much time the engine spends in auto-stop mode when towing a >> trailer. If more people had seat-time in these big hybrids, they'd be a >> lot more popular. >> >> -Luke >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:21 PM Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> wrote: >> >>> In what way are you "holding out" for the cybertruck ? Have you ordered >>> one or are you waiting for the next design iteration ? >>> Peri >>> >>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Luke Scharf" <lukesch...@clusterbee.net> >>> To: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion >>> List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>> Sent: 26-Apr-21 12:13:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] maybe convert odyssey ? >>> >>>> Do need 200 miles every day? Or once a week? Or once a month? >>>> >>>> The Pacifica PHEV has a total range of about 520 miles. The first 32 >>>> miles are electric, and the remaining miles are on gasoline. >>>> >>>> If you need 20 miles most days, and only need the 200 miles a couple of >>>> times a month, the PHEV would be a pretty smooth 90% solution. >>>> >>>> For my needs, I'm holding out for the Tesla truck, and driving one of >>>> the GM 2-Mode hybrids in the meantime. I'll be happy to explain why >>>> that's a match for my situation. Hopefully the Tesla truck will be a >>>> long-term do-everything vehicle. >>>> >>>> -Luke >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:57 PM Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I need min 200 mile range with heat and defrost running. That's the RT >>>>> for most of my mountain activites, where there are few, if any >>>>> charging >>>>> opportunities (and frankly, with a 12-14 hour outing, I don't want to >>>>> add 30 minutes for charging). Also I'd like better ground clearance >>>>> than >>>>> the minivan, which is 6.5". I'd like some hauling capacity, but I >>>>> could >>>>> keep the minivan for occasional hauling. >>>>> >>>>> I might have another look at the tesla truck. It would be nice if they >>>>> allowed you to take out the back seat and open the back of the cab, >>>>> for >>>>> long loads. It's ugly (in my opinion) but I don't really care. It's >>>>> also >>>>> too long for my driveway, I think. Need to double check. >>>>> >>>>> Peri >>>>> >>>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Alan Brinkman via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>>>> Cc: "Alan Brinkman" <alanlbrink...@gmail.com> >>>>> Sent: 26-Apr-21 11:13:44 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] maybe convert odyssey ? >>>>> >>>>>> Peri, >>>>>> At first I thought you meant the Odyssey 250cc off road atv by Honda. >>>>> You >>>>>> have a minivan. What about getting a newer Nissan Leaf and installing >>>>> a tow >>>>>> hitch. Then purchase a light enclosed or open utility trailer? Not >>>>> optimal >>>>>> but? >>>>>> Alan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I need to take a serious look at converting my 2000 honda odyssey. >>>>> Every >>>>>>> year I throw a little more money into repairs hoping that a >>>>> suitable EV >>>>>>> replacement will come on the market. So far, nothing that meets my >>>>>>> needs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I am going to have to replace most of the exhaust system, >>>>> which >>>>>>> could cost a couple $k. Honestly, that's still the cheapest path, >>>>> but >>>>>>> something like that occurs every year. That plus miscellaneous >>>>> other >>>>>>> maintenance expenses plus gas, I wonder if I come out ahead, over >>>>> some >>>>>>> years, converting it. I hate throwing more money into something >>>>> that >>>>>>> still uses gas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are a few questions on my mind, and surely they will expose >>>>> more :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - what are the dims of the tesla model 3 82kWh battery ? >>>>>>> - what is its cost, salvaged (but with near new capacity) ? >>>>>>> - what is the cost of other components I need to salvage - motor, >>>>>>> inverter, BMS, charger ... ? >>>>>>> - what computer support is needed for the motor, inverter, BMS, >>>>> charger >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> - is anyone willing to do the work ? for what cost ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suspect this car is old enough that its existing engine related >>>>>>> computers can be removed. There are some smarts in the window and >>>>>>> ventilation control, but they might operate without any central >>>>>>> computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>>>>>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>>>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>>>>>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>>> URL: >>>>> < >>> http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210426/106b1acc/attachment.html >>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>>>>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>>>>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>>>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>>>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210426/ca582e11/attachment.html >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210426/65742615/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
