I'm holding out for the Tesla Cybertruck because it is not yet in production.
My current requirement is for a 6000lb towing capacity and 5 seats. My work-from-home arrangement means that commuting is not a significant part of the vehicle's mileage. But, the reality is that I'm driving an 11-year-old truck. This truck is about as close as possible to the upcoming EV pickup trucks, technologically speaking. But it does come with some disadvantages: some newer non-hybrid trucks do have better window-sticker numbers than my 2-mode hybrid -- those trucks cost more than I'm willing to spend on a short-term purchase. Also, this machine is a rare beast, and so it's hard to find mechanics who have some experience with it (including my local GMC dealer). Despite having been well taken care of by its previous owner, it's starting to see the same issues you see on all 11-year-old GMT900s. I'm waiting for the upcoming EV pickup trucks to hit the market so that I can swap it for my "forever" truck. It really does feel like I'm holding out. That said, these big hybrids have really grown on me. With the hybrid system under the hood, they're really nice vehicles to drive day-to-day. Also, operations like hitching up the trailer and backing up with a trailer are a lot easier than anything I've ever towed with before, due to the precise low-end control provided by the hybrid drivetrain. I really can move the truck 1/4" backward when I need to, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how much time the engine spends in auto-stop mode when towing a trailer. If more people had seat-time in these big hybrids, they'd be a lot more popular. -Luke On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:21 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > In what way are you "holding out" for the cybertruck ? Have you ordered > one or are you waiting for the next design iteration ? > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Luke Scharf" <[email protected]> > To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion > List" <[email protected]> > Sent: 26-Apr-21 12:13:20 PM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] maybe convert odyssey ? > > >Do need 200 miles every day? Or once a week? Or once a month? > > > >The Pacifica PHEV has a total range of about 520 miles. The first 32 > >miles are electric, and the remaining miles are on gasoline. > > > >If you need 20 miles most days, and only need the 200 miles a couple of > >times a month, the PHEV would be a pretty smooth 90% solution. > > > >For my needs, I'm holding out for the Tesla truck, and driving one of > >the GM 2-Mode hybrids in the meantime. I'll be happy to explain why > >that's a match for my situation. Hopefully the Tesla truck will be a > >long-term do-everything vehicle. > > > >-Luke > > > > > >On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:57 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> > >wrote: > >>I need min 200 mile range with heat and defrost running. That's the RT > >>for most of my mountain activites, where there are few, if any > >>charging > >>opportunities (and frankly, with a 12-14 hour outing, I don't want to > >>add 30 minutes for charging). Also I'd like better ground clearance > >>than > >>the minivan, which is 6.5". I'd like some hauling capacity, but I > >>could > >>keep the minivan for occasional hauling. > >> > >>I might have another look at the tesla truck. It would be nice if they > >>allowed you to take out the back seat and open the back of the cab, > >>for > >>long loads. It's ugly (in my opinion) but I don't really care. It's > >>also > >>too long for my driveway, I think. Need to double check. > >> > >>Peri > >> > >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > >> > >>------ Original Message ------ > >>From: "Alan Brinkman via EV" <[email protected]> > >>To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > >>Cc: "Alan Brinkman" <[email protected]> > >>Sent: 26-Apr-21 11:13:44 AM > >>Subject: Re: [EVDL] maybe convert odyssey ? > >> > >> >Peri, > >> >At first I thought you meant the Odyssey 250cc off road atv by Honda. > >>You > >> >have a minivan. What about getting a newer Nissan Leaf and installing > >>a tow > >> >hitch. Then purchase a light enclosed or open utility trailer? Not > >>optimal > >> >but? > >> >Alan > >> > > >> >On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 9:27 AM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> > >>wrote: > >> > > >> >> I need to take a serious look at converting my 2000 honda odyssey. > >>Every > >> >> year I throw a little more money into repairs hoping that a > >>suitable EV > >> >> replacement will come on the market. So far, nothing that meets my > >> >> needs. > >> >> > >> >> I think I am going to have to replace most of the exhaust system, > >>which > >> >> could cost a couple $k. Honestly, that's still the cheapest path, > >>but > >> >> something like that occurs every year. That plus miscellaneous > >>other > >> >> maintenance expenses plus gas, I wonder if I come out ahead, over > >>some > >> >> years, converting it. I hate throwing more money into something > >>that > >> >> still uses gas. > >> >> > >> >> Here are a few questions on my mind, and surely they will expose > >>more :) > >> >> > >> >> - what are the dims of the tesla model 3 82kWh battery ? > >> >> - what is its cost, salvaged (but with near new capacity) ? > >> >> - what is the cost of other components I need to salvage - motor, > >> >> inverter, BMS, charger ... ? > >> >> - what computer support is needed for the motor, inverter, BMS, > >>charger > >> >> ? > >> >> - is anyone willing to do the work ? for what cost ? > >> >> > >> >> I suspect this car is old enough that its existing engine related > >> >> computers can be removed. There are some smarts in the window and > >> >> ventilation control, but they might operate without any central > >> >> computer. > >> >> > >> >> Peri > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Address messages to [email protected] > >> >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >> >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> >> > >> >-------------- next part -------------- > >> >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> >URL: > >>< > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210426/106b1acc/attachment.html > > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Address messages to [email protected] > >> >No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> >ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >> >LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Address messages to [email protected] > >>No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >>UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >>ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >>LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210426/ca582e11/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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