That is what everyone said when Toyotas were suddenly accelerating into objects. Toyota proved it was operator error. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/07/nhtsa-no-toyotas-do-not-suddenly-accelerate-unless-you-press-the-accelerator/59696/
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, February 4, 2022, 9:32 PM, mark hanson via EV <[email protected]> wrote: PS, in both cases they told me that the vehicle recorded the autopilot off at the time of the crash (driver error) even though it was actually on. From: mark hanson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2022 10:00 PM To: 'Michael Ross'; 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops Hi Mike etc, If you can get Elon to put in a second computer to monitor the first one that dies – then you’d have some real data. Also in self driving (like the Space Shuttle for life critical systems), multiple uP’s vote (at least 3). All truly self driving cars *should* have at least 3, so that if one glitches on a curvy road and drops out, the other two kick out its’ “vote” and don’t crash the car. Another friend in Maryland had the same issue with his model 3, why I opted *not* to pay the $10K extra for full self driving mode (even though my wife would like it since handicapped). Not ready for prime-time. Have a renewable energy day, Mark Mark E. Hanson 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell REEVA: community service RE & EV project club Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV Installer My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh REEVA Demo: http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 Fincastle Solar Weather Station <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd8975b8d/signature> From: Michael Ross [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2022 5:09 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Mark Hanson Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla’s Sneaky Rolling Stops Mark, Can you show me where this anecdotal information might be gathered as factual data? I have become very wary of information that is not attributed to some source that I can trust. No offence intended. On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:38 PM Mark Hanson via EV <[email protected]> wrote: Tesla should just drop the whole self driving thing and just focus on a great electric car. My Tesla Y was the only EV I could find with towing capacity for my H20 ski boat and an excellent nationwide charging network. The problem with self driving is when the computer gets a glitch, it drops out and the vehicle goes straight, usually into a tree on a curvy road (happened to my friend last year and previous year to his wife in a Tesla3). Of course when the computer drops out it doesn’t record the crash as a self driving error. How convenient for Tesla. The actual crash rate is much higher than recorded. Best regards Mark Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 901-2805 Cell and Text <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> (919) 576-0824 Tablet, Google Phone and Text -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220204/71c4e170/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220205/de1c6ae5/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
