On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 16:03 Willie via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > On 1/13/24 11:38, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > > > all the buttons, stalks, switches, etc that mimic > > > obsolete cars and satisfies those with such fetishes. > > > > Exactly how is having commonly used controls that are needed for the > > safe operation of a vehicle right out in plain sight and easily > > adjusted without requiring the driver to take eyes off the road a > > "fetish"? C'mon, Willie look at what you just wrote! > > > > Seems more like Tesla is masturbating with technology in order to > > appear more modern than anything. Sure, put the setup and deep > > adjustments behind a screen, but if I want to control the heater, > > radio (I know, obsolete...) or wipers, let me just reach for the > > hardware control and continue to concentrate on driving (I know, also > > obsolete once FSD is a "reality"). > > > > Making vehicles with intuitive control layout is a safety feature. > > Maybe Tesla will switch the brake and accelerator pedals just to be > > "unique"? > > Thanks, you've made your bias clear. BUT, there are FAR more EV drivers > that appreciate the value of Teslas, as they show by buying them, than > all other, non-Tesla, EVs combined.
Let's not assume Tesla's sales success is because it has an unequivocally better EV product today. What it does have is: -a reliable, easy to use, rapidly growing, DCFC network -vehicles that can effectively use that DCFC network (regularly at 100 kW+ sustained charging power, with peaks above 250 kW) -vehicle price points, that for a 300 mile range vehicle, currently undercuts the competition -the most and longest experience with making reliable lithium battery packs, having been through several product generations so far -bulk EV production capacity, and the supply chain to support it, leading to actual product being available for sale -a generally excellent maps and navigation system, with integrated, near real-time, charging information (I recently compared it to Android Auto on a 2023 Toyota vehicle, and felt Tesla software was mostly better. Main thing that the Toyota had that was better in terms of software was including a regional weather map screen. Tesla should have a radar overlay later on the maps.) IMO, those advantages, together, have so far sufficiently outweighed the product weaknesses (which include certain UI decisions and feature/hardware cuts and missing capabilities) to allow Tesla to hold an EV sales lead. But, the advantages shouldn't be interpreted as Tesla having an unshakable position. The competition is hungry, and I feel Tesla is, in important ways, coasting. Some of its recent tech additions (heat pumps) are half innovation (octovalve) and half catch-up (the heat pump itself). Nissan had heat pumps in 2013. V2L is another catch up item...seen on several competitor products for years, and even on some Toyota hybrids. IMO, for Tesla to reliably maintain its lead, it will increasingly need to offer an equal or better product (including availability) and product experience, and equal or better supporting infrastructure, and equal or better service. Anything less leaves room for hungry competitors to peel away customers. Or for current customers to feel spurned, and to consider jumping to a competitor, when they are ready to purchase again. You seem to argue that development > of automobiles is near complete with no need to consider other ways of > doing things. Tesla (and some other EVs) has made the brake pedal near > obsolete. Indeed, we seem to be on the cusp of making human drivers > obsolete. > Single pedal cannot give you maximum stopping force, unless it is configured to apply max force upon release. That doesn't seem like a good idea for a smooth driving experience. I don't see the brake pedal disappearing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240113/980c37c8/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
