And I will not likely buy commercial products, preferring to know how the thing works. I encourage you to continue the EV list thru email. I would be happy to make a contribution to the cost.
Thanks for your continued efforts. John M "Money is like manure; it's not worth a thing unless it's spread around encouraging young things to grow." Thornton Wilder (via Jim Hightower) Jul 11, 2026, 2:17 AM by [email protected]: > Find a couple of questions for you to please answer / discuss below. > > About a week ago I got an unwelcome surprise - notice that the EV list's > hosting service will shut down discussion lists on the 22nd of this month. > > Good news: I've found a new host that seems committed to discussion lists for > the longer term. > > More good news: It would add an integrated archive and an interactive web- > forum (BBS) to the list. That would make it more like Google Groups or the > old Yahoo Groups, but without all the advertising and the privacy concerns. > > To be clear, the BBS would be optional. You could still interact with the > discussion list entirely via email, the way you always have. > > As a bonus, the new host would cost me about half of what I've been paying > for the last few years. > > But ... > > List traffic has been steadily declining since 2012 and the introduction of > practical production EVs. In the last 6 months we've had about 260 posts. > In 2010, we got almost that many messages per *week*. > > That's probably because the EV list has always been mainly a place for EV > hobbyists. > > Not many folks build their own EVs now. > > Also, most of the production EVs have their own dedicated or semi-dedicated > (usually commercial / ad-supported) online resources. > > I suppose that there's EV discussion on social media, too. > > So, finally, my questions to you: > > Is the EV discussion list still useful to you? > > Should I keep it going? > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > We have lived our lives by the assumption that what was good for > us would be good for the world. We must change our lives so that > it will be possible to live by the contrary assumption, that what > is good for the world will be good for us. > > -- Wendell Berry > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > OT: If you use an Android device, please read https://keepandroidopen.org/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ OT: If you use an Android device, please read https://keepandroidopen.org/
