As a really long time reader of this list (something close to 40 years), I 
would love to see this list continue.
As with almost all E-Mail distribution lists, a lot of traffic has moved to 
forums, or social media.  For systems that get high usage, a forum is fine as 
none of us likely want to get hundreds of messages per day, but for low traffic 
systems the E-Mail list has the advantage of not needing to go to some web site 
to see if anything has changed.  Having a web based archive is great as it 
allows going back for old traffic.
I really hate to see systems move to social media only because so often fans of 
whatever social media forget that there are lots of people who refuse to use 
social media.

Jim Walls
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: "List Lackey via EV" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2026 22:16
To: [email protected]
Cc: "List Lackey" <[email protected]>
Subject: [EVDL] EV List future?

Find a couple of questions for you to please answer / discuss below.

About a week ago I got an unwelcome surprise - notice that the EV list's 
hosting service will shut down discussion lists on the 22nd of this month.

Good news: I've found a new host that seems committed to discussion lists for 
the longer term.

More good news: It would add an integrated archive and an interactive web-
forum (BBS) to the list. That would make it more like Google Groups or the 
old Yahoo Groups, but without all the advertising and the privacy concerns.  

To be clear, the BBS would be optional.  You could still interact with the 
discussion list entirely via email, the way you always have.

As a bonus, the new host would cost me about half of what I've been paying 
for the last few years.

But ...

List traffic has been steadily declining since 2012 and the introduction of 
practical production EVs.  In the last 6 months we've had about 260 posts.  
In 2010, we got almost that many messages per *week*.

That's probably because the EV list has always been mainly a place for EV 
hobbyists.  

Not many folks build their own EVs now.  

Also, most of the production EVs have their own dedicated or semi-dedicated 
(usually commercial / ad-supported) online resources.  

I suppose that there's EV discussion on social media, too.

So, finally, my questions to you:

Is the EV discussion list still useful to you?

Should I keep it going?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my 
offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt

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