Re: PloneEdu distribution, that is something we (PloneEdu steering team, see http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu/community/steering-team) are hoping to do. Our first step is to gather up and evaluate products that are going to be of interest to education organizations, and eventually put them together in a single "you may find these products interesting" buildout. I have only recently joined this PloneEdu effort, so cannot speak to what may or may not have been promised in the past.
Kim On May 16, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Nate Aune wrote: > Re-hashing this previous discussion because I think it's still very > relevant... > >> Then he goes a lot into how there can only be one CMS left standing (very >> highlander) and how that can be Drupal etc etc. I can start to see where >> these drupal people get their zeal from now :) > > yes, in his DrupalCon keynote this year, he said that Drupal/Joomla > and Wordpress would be the only OSS CMS to survive and all others > would fade away. > >> Thankfully Plone's UI seems to be in great hands. The simplification of the >> framework side of plone has had some great noises made but IMHO we seem to >> have a great process for adding features and frameworks but it's unclear how >> that process works for simplifying the framework. > > Yeah, the framework, for all its benefits, has turned away a lot of > would-be Plone people because it is too complex and unapproachable. > We need to focus on making it more approachable if we want to continue > to attract new people to Plone. > >> We have awesome demos of deco and its easy for all of us further down the >> chain to see where we are headed UI wise, > > I found it very interesting that Dries was in Limi's talk about Deco > at CMSExpo. I think Dries realizes that Drupal could learn a few > things about Plone's simple and unified UI. > > This is also a very telling post comparing Django to Drupal. > http://birdhouse.org/blog/2009/11/11/drupal-or-django/ > > The 87 comments are also very telling. > >> but what would be the equivalent >> of a vision outlining a simplified framework for developing with plone? >> Limi highlighting 25% less code in plone 4 is pretty cool. Wouldn't it be >> great to see 50% less concepts needed to learn plone in plone5? > > Yes, I agree. > >>> 7) They are still, out-of-the-box, a great blogging platform, and if >>> you're using Drupal as a "news to the home page site" with a few static >>> pages, it's easy and fast to configure. >> >> Dries talks about Distributions which isn't something we've done much with >> in Plone. Drupal seems to be advertising its out of the box intranet >> distribution on drupal.com and Plone doesn't have one and yet Plone is a >> better match. >> >> The points Dries makes about distributions are also really interesting. >> >> "There is a risk involved with distributions as well, which means that we >> need to approach them the right way. The risk is fragmentation, and it is >> why I feel it is important that distributions build on the usability >> patterns set by Drupal core. " > > I think distributions is something we should seriously look at within > the Plone community. See this blog post I wrote back in 2007 about > creating Plone distros. > http://piktipi.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/natea-creating-easy-to-install-plone-distributions-with-buildout/ > > We currently have Plinkit (for libraries) and Plumi (for video > portal). Where is the PloneEdu distribution, or the PloneGov > distribution. Where is the distro for newspapers or media > organizations? > > For building a social networking site, Wordpress has BuddyPress > (http://buddypress.org) and Drupal has DrupalGardens > (http://www.drupalgardens.com/) for building marketing sites, > OpenPublish (http://openpublishapp.com/) for publishing industry and > OpenPublic, a Drupal distribution for open government. > http://www.phase2technology.com/press-release/phase2-technology-announces-openpublic-drupal-distribution-federal-agency-use-satisfy- > > I think if we were to nurture smaller subsets of communities within > the larger Plone community around these distributions, we could start > to see more penetration into these markets. The PloneEdu efforts that > Mike Halm at PSU is leading is a step in the right direction. Let's > hope that this serves as a model for others to follow. > http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu > > Nate > > > -- > // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // > http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ > > Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com > http://www.jazkarta.com > http://card.ly/natea > http://tungle.me/natea > +1 (617) 517-4953 > _______________________________________________ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism _______________________________________________ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism