On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:54 AM, David Bain <[email protected]> wrote: > The first two distributions that make sense to me are "almost distributions > already", the pieces are there: > Plone Mobile (built around the go mobile platform)
Oh right, do you mean Mikko's gomobile platform? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/gomobile.mobile/ http://www.slideshare.net/miohtama/plone-go-mobile > Plone Social. (putting all the current pieces together, a site that > simplifies the management of incoming and outgoing tweets, facebook, buzz > and youtube video) What would it take to bundle up some Plone add-ons and release it as a PloneSocial distro? What add-ons should be included? Would you want to lead the charge to put something together? Nate > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:51 PM, T. Kim Nguyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Re: PloneEdu distribution, that is something we (PloneEdu steering team, >> see http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu/community/steering-team) are hoping to >> do. Our first step is to gather up and evaluate products that are going to >> be of interest to education organizations, and eventually put them together >> in a single "you may find these products interesting" buildout. I have only >> recently joined this PloneEdu effort, so cannot speak to what may or may not >> have been promised in the past. >> >> Kim >> >> On May 16, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Nate Aune wrote: >> >> > Re-hashing this previous discussion because I think it's still very >> > relevant... >> > >> >> Then he goes a lot into how there can only be one CMS left standing >> >> (very >> >> highlander) and how that can be Drupal etc etc. I can start to see >> >> where >> >> these drupal people get their zeal from now :) >> > >> > yes, in his DrupalCon keynote this year, he said that Drupal/Joomla >> > and Wordpress would be the only OSS CMS to survive and all others >> > would fade away. >> > >> >> Thankfully Plone's UI seems to be in great hands. The simplification of >> >> the >> >> framework side of plone has had some great noises made but IMHO we seem >> >> to >> >> have a great process for adding features and frameworks but it's >> >> unclear how >> >> that process works for simplifying the framework. >> > >> > Yeah, the framework, for all its benefits, has turned away a lot of >> > would-be Plone people because it is too complex and unapproachable. >> > We need to focus on making it more approachable if we want to continue >> > to attract new people to Plone. >> > >> >> We have awesome demos of deco and its easy for all of us further down >> >> the >> >> chain to see where we are headed UI wise, >> > >> > I found it very interesting that Dries was in Limi's talk about Deco >> > at CMSExpo. I think Dries realizes that Drupal could learn a few >> > things about Plone's simple and unified UI. >> > >> > This is also a very telling post comparing Django to Drupal. >> > http://birdhouse.org/blog/2009/11/11/drupal-or-django/ >> > >> > The 87 comments are also very telling. >> > >> >> but what would be the equivalent >> >> of a vision outlining a simplified framework for developing with plone? >> >> Limi highlighting 25% less code in plone 4 is pretty cool. Wouldn't it >> >> be >> >> great to see 50% less concepts needed to learn plone in plone5? >> > >> > Yes, I agree. >> > >> >>> 7) They are still, out-of-the-box, a great blogging platform, and if >> >>> you're using Drupal as a "news to the home page site" with a few >> >>> static >> >>> pages, it's easy and fast to configure. >> >> >> >> Dries talks about Distributions which isn't something we've done much >> >> with >> >> in Plone. Drupal seems to be advertising its out of the box intranet >> >> distribution on drupal.com and Plone doesn't have one and yet Plone is >> >> a >> >> better match. >> >> >> >> The points Dries makes about distributions are also really interesting. >> >> >> >> "There is a risk involved with distributions as well, which means that >> >> we >> >> need to approach them the right way. The risk is fragmentation, and it >> >> is >> >> why I feel it is important that distributions build on the usability >> >> patterns set by Drupal core. " >> > >> > I think distributions is something we should seriously look at within >> > the Plone community. See this blog post I wrote back in 2007 about >> > creating Plone distros. >> > >> > http://piktipi.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/natea-creating-easy-to-install-plone-distributions-with-buildout/ >> > >> > We currently have Plinkit (for libraries) and Plumi (for video >> > portal). Where is the PloneEdu distribution, or the PloneGov >> > distribution. Where is the distro for newspapers or media >> > organizations? >> > >> > For building a social networking site, Wordpress has BuddyPress >> > (http://buddypress.org) and Drupal has DrupalGardens >> > (http://www.drupalgardens.com/) for building marketing sites, >> > OpenPublish (http://openpublishapp.com/) for publishing industry and >> > OpenPublic, a Drupal distribution for open government. >> > >> > http://www.phase2technology.com/press-release/phase2-technology-announces-openpublic-drupal-distribution-federal-agency-use-satisfy- >> > >> > I think if we were to nurture smaller subsets of communities within >> > the larger Plone community around these distributions, we could start >> > to see more penetration into these markets. The PloneEdu efforts that >> > Mike Halm at PSU is leading is a step in the right direction. Let's >> > hope that this serves as a model for others to follow. >> > http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu >> > >> > Nate >> > >> > >> > -- >> > // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // >> > http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ >> > >> > Nate Aune - [email protected] >> > http://www.jazkarta.com >> > http://card.ly/natea >> > http://tungle.me/natea >> > +1 (617) 517-4953 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Evangelism mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Evangelism mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > _______________________________________________ > Evangelism mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - [email protected] http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 _______________________________________________ Evangelism mailing list [email protected] http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
