The first two distributions that make sense to me are "almost distributions already", the pieces are there: Plone Mobile (built around the go mobile platform) Plone Social. (putting all the current pieces together, a site that simplifies the management of incoming and outgoing tweets, facebook, buzz and youtube video)
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:51 PM, T. Kim Nguyen <[email protected]> wrote: > Re: PloneEdu distribution, that is something we (PloneEdu steering team, > see http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu/community/steering-team) are hoping to > do. Our first step is to gather up and evaluate products that are going to > be of interest to education organizations, and eventually put them together > in a single "you may find these products interesting" buildout. I have only > recently joined this PloneEdu effort, so cannot speak to what may or may not > have been promised in the past. > > Kim > > On May 16, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Nate Aune wrote: > > > Re-hashing this previous discussion because I think it's still very > relevant... > > > >> Then he goes a lot into how there can only be one CMS left standing > (very > >> highlander) and how that can be Drupal etc etc. I can start to see where > >> these drupal people get their zeal from now :) > > > > yes, in his DrupalCon keynote this year, he said that Drupal/Joomla > > and Wordpress would be the only OSS CMS to survive and all others > > would fade away. > > > >> Thankfully Plone's UI seems to be in great hands. The simplification of > the > >> framework side of plone has had some great noises made but IMHO we seem > to > >> have a great process for adding features and frameworks but it's unclear > how > >> that process works for simplifying the framework. > > > > Yeah, the framework, for all its benefits, has turned away a lot of > > would-be Plone people because it is too complex and unapproachable. > > We need to focus on making it more approachable if we want to continue > > to attract new people to Plone. > > > >> We have awesome demos of deco and its easy for all of us further down > the > >> chain to see where we are headed UI wise, > > > > I found it very interesting that Dries was in Limi's talk about Deco > > at CMSExpo. I think Dries realizes that Drupal could learn a few > > things about Plone's simple and unified UI. > > > > This is also a very telling post comparing Django to Drupal. > > http://birdhouse.org/blog/2009/11/11/drupal-or-django/ > > > > The 87 comments are also very telling. > > > >> but what would be the equivalent > >> of a vision outlining a simplified framework for developing with plone? > >> Limi highlighting 25% less code in plone 4 is pretty cool. Wouldn't it > be > >> great to see 50% less concepts needed to learn plone in plone5? > > > > Yes, I agree. > > > >>> 7) They are still, out-of-the-box, a great blogging platform, and if > >>> you're using Drupal as a "news to the home page site" with a few static > >>> pages, it's easy and fast to configure. > >> > >> Dries talks about Distributions which isn't something we've done much > with > >> in Plone. Drupal seems to be advertising its out of the box intranet > >> distribution on drupal.com and Plone doesn't have one and yet Plone is > a > >> better match. > >> > >> The points Dries makes about distributions are also really interesting. > >> > >> "There is a risk involved with distributions as well, which means that > we > >> need to approach them the right way. The risk is fragmentation, and it > is > >> why I feel it is important that distributions build on the usability > >> patterns set by Drupal core. " > > > > I think distributions is something we should seriously look at within > > the Plone community. See this blog post I wrote back in 2007 about > > creating Plone distros. > > > http://piktipi.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/natea-creating-easy-to-install-plone-distributions-with-buildout/ > > > > We currently have Plinkit (for libraries) and Plumi (for video > > portal). Where is the PloneEdu distribution, or the PloneGov > > distribution. Where is the distro for newspapers or media > > organizations? > > > > For building a social networking site, Wordpress has BuddyPress > > (http://buddypress.org) and Drupal has DrupalGardens > > (http://www.drupalgardens.com/) for building marketing sites, > > OpenPublish (http://openpublishapp.com/) for publishing industry and > > OpenPublic, a Drupal distribution for open government. > > > http://www.phase2technology.com/press-release/phase2-technology-announces-openpublic-drupal-distribution-federal-agency-use-satisfy- > > > > I think if we were to nurture smaller subsets of communities within > > the larger Plone community around these distributions, we could start > > to see more penetration into these markets. The PloneEdu efforts that > > Mike Halm at PSU is leading is a step in the right direction. Let's > > hope that this serves as a model for others to follow. > > http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu > > > > Nate > > > > > > -- > > // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // > > http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ > > > > Nate Aune - [email protected] > > http://www.jazkarta.com > > http://card.ly/natea > > http://tungle.me/natea > > +1 (617) 517-4953 > > _______________________________________________ > > Evangelism mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > _______________________________________________ > Evangelism mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >
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