Teşekkür ederim Funda Love to you, Peggy
_________________________________ Peggy Holman [email protected] Twitter: @peggyholman Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.peggyholman.com www.journalismthatmatters.org Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> "An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become the fire". -- Drew Dellinger > On Feb 16, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Funda Oral via OSList <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sevgili Meslektaşlar, Sevgili Jo, > > Çoğunuzun bildiği gibi 2007 senesinden beri mümkün oldukça Açık Alan > Teknolojisi ile çalışıyor ve tanıtmak için de çaba sarf ediyorum. > > Birkaç ay önce Berlin'e taşındım. > > Berlin 2023 WOSonOS'un çeşitlilik içermesi için elimden geleni yapmaya > hazırım. > > Herkese Sevgiler, > Funda Oral > > https://www.linkedin.com/me?trk=p_mwlite_feed_updates-secondary_nav > > > note: I can speak English, French, a bit Italian and now a little bit German. > But I wanted to write you this time in my mother tongue Turkish. Please use > "deepl" to translate and let me know if something is not clear. > > > > > 15 Şub 2023 Çar 09:20 tarihinde Jo Toepfer via OSList <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> şunu yazdı: >> dear colleagues, >> >> by the way: the event website for the 2023 WOSonOS in Berlin is live now: >> >> https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/ >> >> You can book your ticket and your hotel and we are happy to see many of you >> here in Berlin. >> >> Warm regards >> Jo >> >> ******************************** >> >> Am 12.02.23 um 18:34 schrieb Kári Gunnarsson via OSList: >>> Sounds like a good idea, we can discuss it at the closing circle of the >>> Berlin OS >>> >>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, 17:13 Silvia Ferrari - mooncult via OSList, >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> while waiting to meet those of you who will be in Berlin, I would like to >>>> share with you a reflection on my proposal to host the Wosonos 2024 in >>>> Italy. Gerardo told me about a tradition that has long governed the >>>> transition from one Wosonos to another: the alternation of continents. >>>> If the Wosonos 2024 were in Italy, it would be the third year in a row in >>>> Europe. Perhaps it may not be very inclusive for those who do not live in >>>> Europe? Does it make sense perhaps to postpone my invitation to Italy to >>>> 2025 and see if there are other proposals for 2024? >>>> Tell me what you think. >>>> Thank you, >>>> Silvia >>>> >>>> Silvia Ferrari - mooncult >>>> Facilitator >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> - +393403434580 >>>> www.mooncult.it <http://www.mooncult.it/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Il giorno 9 nov 2022, alle ore 16:51, Jo Toepfer via OSList >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> for those of you who did not attend the WOSonOS in Bilbao: Next stop is >>>>> Berlin. >>>>> >>>>> After 2000 and 2010 we will have the privilege to host the WOSonOS 2023 >>>>> in Berlin. No other candidate city raised the hand and the closing circle >>>>> in Bilbao was pretty clear. So, I took our talking stick back to Berlin >>>>> where it is waiting to be used in the next edition of the WOSonOS. >>>>> >>>>> Dates and location are already clear: >>>>> >>>>> October 18 through 21, 2023: We will get together on the evening of Oct >>>>> 18 for the opening evening / night / party. And, from Oct 19 through 21 >>>>> we will conduct a full scale 3-days Open Space event. >>>>> >>>>> The location is Beach Mitte <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> >>>>> <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> This is an inner city beach >>>>> resort with all kind of facilities and opportunities in Berlin downtown. >>>>> The management of this venue is highly interested in interactive >>>>> management and conference formats. They support hosting the WOSonOS in >>>>> their venue with a significant discount. They do not charge any rent for >>>>> the venue we only need to cover expenses for food, drinks and staff. This >>>>> will allow us to sell tickets for a moderate price. We will hopefully be >>>>> able to start selling the tickets by the end of this year. >>>>> >>>>> The International Association of Facilitators / Europe and Middle East >>>>> chapter will probably held their bi-annual conference in the same venue >>>>> just a few days before: Oct 16 through 18, 2023. Most likely, it will be >>>>> organised be the German IAF chapter which has a stronghold in Berlin. And >>>>> most of the IAF colleagues are familiar with Open Space and attended >>>>> WOSonOSes in the past. We intend to link the two events for participants >>>>> who are interested in attending both. >>>>> >>>>> In the closing circle in Bilbao we heard that some colleagues form Italy >>>>> are interested to host the coming WOSonOS in 2024 in Bologna. Is this >>>>> still valid? >>>>> >>>>> I hope to see many of you in Berlin next year. >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards >>>>> Jo >>>>> >>>>> ***************************** >>>>> >>>>> Am 14.10.22 um 15:04 schrieb Anna Caroline Türk: >>>>>> Dear JF, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for taking the time to keep thinking out loud and to speak >>>>>> more to your chapters of your potential book. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope other people will reply to your thoughtful exploration, and >>>>>> highlight what resonates with them. >>>>>> I have only passion to reply to two aspects that stand out for me in >>>>>> your mail. And while I might be disagreeing with what I hear, I hope >>>>>> this mail also conveys the spirit of an energized conversation, which we >>>>>> could quickly have over a coffee or tea in an in-person-meeting. And by >>>>>> then end leave with a smile as we agree to disagree. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am unsure what you refer to when you write, that you hear me when I >>>>>> expressed reservations regarding corporate resistance. >>>>>> I was hoping to convey that I have empathy with leaders who resist >>>>>> interventions that promote "organizational therapy" and "sexuality". (I >>>>>> am aware that I might taking you too literally here ...) >>>>>> >>>>>> But in that similar spirit you mention in your last mail that you >>>>>> believe that leaders "need a bit of shaken up. I think some corporate >>>>>> leaders recognize this and might be more attracted to thought provoking >>>>>> and intriguing notions. In that sense, I really like your proposal for >>>>>> breath and intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think of silence." >>>>>> >>>>>> We might be not too different in our perception, because we both like >>>>>> silence, but I disagree with the approach to shake people up. My >>>>>> approach would be to create a learning environment, a nourishing >>>>>> environment, rather than a provoking or shaking environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can only relate to my own learning preferences and I have find that I >>>>>> learn, expand and grow the most when I learn together in a life >>>>>> nourishing environment, where the intention is to create genuine >>>>>> connection with self, other and creation. I believe it is because of the >>>>>> breathing and sitting in a circle together that the wisdom of the group >>>>>> will emerge and best next steps will be identified by those who work >>>>>> (and live) together. This will includes both challenging and generating >>>>>> conversations. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The other aspect I would like to point out is the notion of a "safe >>>>>> mechanism". You write: >>>>>> "Ideally, an open space event should allow people to raise issues or >>>>>> questions that they did not dare raise before. Mostly because there was >>>>>> no safe mechanism to do so. In open space, it is part of the game." >>>>>> I would say that instead of a "safe" mechanism", open space gives an >>>>>> "appropriate" mechanism. >>>>>> Do you mean its a safe mechanism - because Open Space will guarantee >>>>>> that everyone speaks up? >>>>>> I am quite careful with this assumption. Careful preparation with the >>>>>> leaders (and potentially other invitees) are mandatory to strengthen >>>>>> everyone's experience of Open Space as a space where conversations can >>>>>> be brought up, even if they are difficult. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the preparation I therefore include the following ( not complete >>>>>> list): >>>>>> Is this the right date and space for the Open Space >>>>>> Is the purpose clear >>>>>> Is there enough time allocated to this event - given the stated purpose >>>>>> of the Open Space >>>>>> Is the invitation text and the title open and inviting >>>>>> Is clear what is not up for discussion >>>>>> Is it clearly stated how leaders/participants work with the findings of >>>>>> this Open Space. >>>>>> Have leaders committed to and planned in follow up work >>>>>> Only when all of this is clear and explicit, do I trust that it provides >>>>>> a mechanism to bring up what needs to be discussed and maybe healed at >>>>>> that time. >>>>>> Following the principles of open space. >>>>>> >>>>>> So far my thoughts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy weekend, >>>>>> Anna Caroline >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anna Caroline Türk >>>>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders >>>>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://truthcircles.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Mo., 10. Okt. 2022 um 12:14 Uhr schrieb JF <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>> Hello Anna Caroline, >>>>>>> At this point, my week in Bilbao is indistinguishable from my OST >>>>>>> experience as a whole. Considering open space as primarily experiential >>>>>>> and personal, I would probably like to keep it this way. >>>>>>> I wrote this note as a spontaneous light hearted attempt to encapsulate >>>>>>> some fleeting thoughts and sensations that coalesced from the various >>>>>>> sessions I participated in. In that sense it is rooted in my specific >>>>>>> OST Bilbao experience. But I suppose it could be extrapolated to OST in >>>>>>> general. Some of the most personal experiences and meditations I had >>>>>>> while hiking on the basque coastline during the week-end are also >>>>>>> present here. >>>>>>> To be perfectly honest, I was also trying to be a little "tongue in >>>>>>> cheek" by bringing together seemingly unrelated and unexpected topics. >>>>>>> Those associations make sense to me but in a way that was more >>>>>>> instinctive than rational. I have not really rationalized further until >>>>>>> now. >>>>>>> I am very happy you are calling me on it however and I guess you are >>>>>>> now asking me to start writing the chapters of this hypothetical book. >>>>>>> I hear what you are saying about your reservations regarding corporate >>>>>>> resistance. However, one of my personal take away from my stay in >>>>>>> Bilbao is that if we truly believe that it is important to bring in >>>>>>> philosophical or spiritual considerations, we should be confident and >>>>>>> bold about it and not try to bow to a rather stiff corporate way. The >>>>>>> justification is that a unique and possibly unusual perspective is >>>>>>> precisely the highest value we can bring to the corporate world. The >>>>>>> relative stiffness and conformism of corporations (especially as they >>>>>>> grow big) is a core problem they face to remain nimble and innovative. >>>>>>> They need a bit of shakenup. I think some corporate leaders recognize >>>>>>> this and might be more attracted to thought provoking and intriguing >>>>>>> notions. In that sense, I really like your proposal for breath and >>>>>>> intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think of silence. >>>>>>> Now, that being said beyond slightly provocative titles the important >>>>>>> part is to bring some substance and valuable insights. So let me try to >>>>>>> give it a go on the two chapters you mention. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>>>> Well, obviously that title is meant to be both provocative and >>>>>>> confusing. I mean, what is the relation between quantum physics and >>>>>>> sexuality right? >>>>>>> You rightly picked up on sexuality which is taboo especially in the >>>>>>> workplace. Organizations are now essentially a-sexual. We should >>>>>>> certainly celebrate the progress that has been made to make harassment >>>>>>> in the workplace unacceptable and we must continue in this direction. >>>>>>> At the same time most of us are not asexual and I think it is both >>>>>>> illusory and hypocritical to ask people to switch off their sexual >>>>>>> energy while at work. One of the session we had in Bilbao offers a >>>>>>> possible avenue of exploration by expanding on the notion of sexual >>>>>>> energy. >>>>>>> To be precise, the session was about sacred sexuality as a tool for >>>>>>> social transformation. During the session, we danced in order to loosen >>>>>>> up and then we explored levels of intimacy through a guided shared >>>>>>> experience of our 5 senses. It was very intense and sometimes quite >>>>>>> challenging. I personally found it disturbing and difficult but also >>>>>>> liberating. For instance, when you do spend even a few seconds with >>>>>>> someone, smelling each other, it does change how you relate to one >>>>>>> another. So that is the social transformation part. It is very >>>>>>> animalistic and I guess it's the point. >>>>>>> In sacred sexuality we try to connect to the primal energy of creation. >>>>>>> As the convener of the session defines it : "the energy of sacred >>>>>>> sexuality, as the energy of life creation, which helps us to integrate >>>>>>> our accepted and denied parts (lights and shadows) and leads to living >>>>>>> in TOTALITY". The ability to be totally present (oneness) is a theme >>>>>>> that should resonate with many visionary organisations / leaders. It is >>>>>>> about reclaiming sexual energy which had been repressed by religion and >>>>>>> has now been commercialized and consequently distorted. >>>>>>> This is in essence a spiritual journey. That primal energy relates to >>>>>>> the "eros" of the ancient greek. It is the same energy which pushes a >>>>>>> blade of grass to grow even through a small crack in the pavement. It >>>>>>> is in a sense the energy of life. This creative energy is at the core >>>>>>> of reproduction and sexuality but it can also be expressed in ways that >>>>>>> are not purely sexual. This is the key that is offered here. Rather >>>>>>> than trying to suppress and repress sexual energy the proposal is to >>>>>>> find ways to transcend and harness this powerful energy and express it >>>>>>> in ways that are safe and respectful as well as fruitful and >>>>>>> transformative. >>>>>>> I see this primal energy as a potential. Something that can be felt and >>>>>>> that stirs us. It is like a fire inside which can consume us or which >>>>>>> we can learn to utilize in productive and creative ways. This energy >>>>>>> exists but it is not real until we actualize it into action on the >>>>>>> world. And this is the link with quantum physics. Quantum particles >>>>>>> have a probability state or quantum wave function which is unknown and >>>>>>> unknowable until it is collapsed through observation. This connection >>>>>>> would need further elaboration but there maybe something interesting. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>>>> I suppose organizational therapy would be more correct. I guess the >>>>>>> reason why you picked up therapy has somewhat corporate inappropriate >>>>>>> has to do with stigma around mental health and psychotherapy. Mental >>>>>>> health is a hot issue in corporations these days. HR departments all >>>>>>> over are working hard to dissipate that stigma and to create safe >>>>>>> places for people to express their vulnerability. At an individual >>>>>>> level I believe this is driven by empathy and acceptance. From the >>>>>>> point of view of the organization, the motivations might be more about >>>>>>> safety, innovation and ultimately productivity. >>>>>>> I personally have reservations about the notion of mental illness >>>>>>> because it tends to push the responsibility on the individual. It >>>>>>> implies that it is the individual who is ill and therefore requires >>>>>>> treatment. Worse still, treatment too often equates to chemicals. While >>>>>>> it is true that individually we ought to do work on ourselves and deal >>>>>>> with whatever issues we have or have inherited, I believe that a more >>>>>>> holistic perspective is more fruitful and sustainable. It would need to >>>>>>> recognize that the social, societal and organizational contexts are >>>>>>> also very important to mental well being. >>>>>>> Many therapies are based on language and open communication. They >>>>>>> require a space that is safe and free of judgment. I think Open Space >>>>>>> can provide that and in a sense aims to do that by default. We call on >>>>>>> passion and responsibility. Both are challenging in their own way. >>>>>>> Passion in particular can expose some of our vulnerabilities. Ideally, >>>>>>> an open space event should allow people to raise issues or questions >>>>>>> that they did not dare raise before. Mostly because there was no safe >>>>>>> mechanism to do so. In open space, it is part of the game. This in >>>>>>> itself (taking the skeleton out of the closet) is already therapeutic >>>>>>> for both the individual and the group. The discussion that ensues, >>>>>>> provided that it is done with respect, can also have very therapeutic >>>>>>> effects. People feel heard. The organization has an opportunity to grow >>>>>>> and even maybe heal some untold conflict or misunderstanding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So here it is, I hope it offers some clarification and hopefully >>>>>>> triggers further thought. I look forward to further feedback and >>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>> Most kind regards, >>>>>>> JF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:02 PM Anna Caroline Türk >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi JF, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am happy you enjoyed your Open Space experience in Bilbao. >>>>>>>> I wondering if your list speaks to your week in Bilbao or to your >>>>>>>> experience of Open Space Technology? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Your List / potential chapters of a book" include: >>>>>>>> Coming home to transformation >>>>>>>> Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>>>>> Matter, time and the architecture or open space >>>>>>>> Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket >>>>>>>> Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>>>>> Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity as fit for >>>>>>>> purpose solution) >>>>>>>> You spoke about your perceptions that leaders might be afraid of >>>>>>>> applying OST in the corporate context. >>>>>>>> I feel some resistance when I read "sexuality" and "therapy" - can you >>>>>>>> speak more to your points so I can understand this better? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I think of a list/ chapters about OST I can imagine including: >>>>>>>> invitation >>>>>>>> circle >>>>>>>> breath >>>>>>>> emergence >>>>>>>> energy >>>>>>>> creation >>>>>>>> power >>>>>>>> connection >>>>>>>> intimacy >>>>>>>> genuine connections >>>>>>>> wisdom >>>>>>>> actions >>>>>>>> What would others add to their list/chapter of a book about Open Space >>>>>>>> Technology? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Greetings from Berlin >>>>>>>> Anna Caroline >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anna Caroline Türk >>>>>>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders >>>>>>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://truthcircles.com/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 14:14 Uhr schrieb Thomas Perret >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>>>> Open Space as social therapy! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I love it. Especially as a chapter in a book. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I feel your message and I look forward to my next coming home to >>>>>>>>> transformation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, Thomas >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2022-10-04 09:10, JF wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Hello Everyone, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > So here I am back from an intense and very rewarding OST experience >>>>>>>>> > in >>>>>>>>> > Bilbao. It was indeed a very transformative moment right at the >>>>>>>>> > inflexion point of my personal and professional development. The >>>>>>>>> > funny >>>>>>>>> > thing though is that despite the novelty and all the new faces it >>>>>>>>> > felt >>>>>>>>> > like coming home. A feeling hard to explain but I suspect people on >>>>>>>>> > this list would understand. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > As I was driving back on Saturday there were so many thoughts coming >>>>>>>>> > through my mind I thought I could probably write a whole book about >>>>>>>>> > this amazing week in Basque country. Here are some of the chapters >>>>>>>>> > title for that book: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > * Coming home to transformation >>>>>>>>> > * Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>>>>>> > * Matter, time and the architecture or open space >>>>>>>>> > * Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket >>>>>>>>> > * Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>>>>>> > * Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity >>>>>>>>> > as fit >>>>>>>>> > for purpose solution) >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I would like to thank everyone for a very warm welcome and amazing >>>>>>>>> > discussions and thank you for the encouragement from people on this >>>>>>>>> > list to make the trip. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Most warm greetings and hugs, >>>>>>>>> > JF >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:44 PM ingrid ebeling ebus >>>>>>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> Dear Gentza, >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> well, yesterday I decided to come and join the WOSonOS 2022 in >>>>>>>>> >> Bilbao. I hesitated for quite a while, taking the train 32 hours or >>>>>>>>> >> what ever. All the sudden it seemed to be easy and got myself a >>>>>>>>> >> flight ticket. >>>>>>>>> >> Regarding the accommodation I need some help. Earlier you mentioned >>>>>>>>> >> a centric new hostel 5 minutes´ walk from the WOSonOS. How can I >>>>>>>>> >> find out, whether it is still available or find an alternative >>>>>>>>> >> house? >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Now I’m looking forward seeing you all. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Ingrid >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Systemic Prozess facilitation Executive Coaching • Large Group >>>>>>>>> >> Intervention >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover • Germany >>>>>>>>> >> fon +49-511-336 03 30 • mobile +49-172-5145179 >>>>>>>>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Am 09.09.2022 um 10:31 schrieb Gentza Eleder >>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hi Jean Fracnçois! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I'm happy about your decission! >>>>>>>>> >> Let us know if there's anything we could help you with. >>>>>>>>> >> Same for anyone that still is considering to take part totally or >>>>>>>>> >> partially in the WOS week in Bilbao, we are happy to make it >>>>>>>>> >> easaier to you! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> We are passionate about making it easier to anyone that feels the >>>>>>>>> >> thrill and the passion on this gathering to join us! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> The "travel" is being so nice! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Best wishes! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/ >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Mundaka >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223 >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> ps. Michael, we'll keep you in our hearts Bilbao, and will do our >>>>>>>>> >> best to join you some day, maybe next year, in Berlin! Thanks so >>>>>>>>> >> much for your support! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Em quinta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2022 às 22:25, JF >>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Thank you so much Michael for your warm and inspiring message. I >>>>>>>>> >> will definitely be in Bilbao, and am looking forward to it. >>>>>>>>> >> Gentza, I had read the OST user guide a few year's back but it has >>>>>>>>> >> been a while so a good suggestion to re-read it. I will see how >>>>>>>>> >> much >>>>>>>>> >> I am able to commit for the Bilbao OS. For sure I'ld like to >>>>>>>>> >> participate to the OSonOS I will have to see about the earlier >>>>>>>>> >> session. If so yes helping preparing the space is probably a good >>>>>>>>> >> idea. I have organised concerts before and I do appreciate the >>>>>>>>> >> thrill of anticipation. >>>>>>>>> >> Thank you all, >>>>>>>>> >> JF >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 PM WilbaOS <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Michael, thanks so much, first of all for your shiny explanation on >>>>>>>>> >> the message 08.09 on self-organization taken place in OST meetings, >>>>>>>>> >> and we just willing to re-enjoy this, not so much looking for an >>>>>>>>> >> explanation, that's it! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I'm sure we'll witness this magic soon in Bilbao (jsut 3 weeks!)). >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Dear Jean François, my previous experience with WOSonOS has been >>>>>>>>> >> always so rewarding, that, feeling a bit sad after two years in >>>>>>>>> >> which we had no way to ressemble, I asked around and, after a few >>>>>>>>> >> colleagues said "go ahead" in December, we started joyfully with >>>>>>>>> >> our >>>>>>>>> >> small dream. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Now we are happy to see that around 40 people we'll be enjoying 2 >>>>>>>>> >> OS >>>>>>>>> >> meetings in Bilbao soon. We espce that many more will sign up >>>>>>>>> >> during >>>>>>>>> >> next days (if some of you are considering it, please contact us for >>>>>>>>> >> whatever we could help you: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>) >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> 26+27th of September, withe the ample question: 2020+ Complex >>>>>>>>> >> times: >>>>>>>>> >> how are we going ahead in cooperative ways? >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> 29th+30th of September: how can we refine and expand our OS >>>>>>>>> >> practice >>>>>>>>> >> all over the world? >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> JF, I invite you, if having time, to read "Open Space Technology: >>>>>>>>> >> the user's guide (Harrison Owen)", and if you are willing, join us >>>>>>>>> >> in the practice of preparing the space during the 23th September >>>>>>>>> >> and >>>>>>>>> >> / or 28th. Let us know if we can anyhow make your coming easier! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Regarding the Goodhabitz documentary, they'll be coming to WOSonOS >>>>>>>>> >> in Bilbao, and we'll thank some of you answering to their >>>>>>>>> >> interviews. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Looking forward to meet you soon in Bilbao! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Thansk for spreading the heartly invitation! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Gentza Eleder >>>>>>>>> >> Mundaka/Bilbao >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/ >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> https://twitter.com/OpenSpace_EH >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Sent with Proton Mail [1] secure email. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>>>>>> >> On Thursday, September 8th, 2022 at 16:45, Michael M Pannwitz >>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Dear Jean-Francois, >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> yes, experiencing open space in an OST setting is the best way to >>>>>>>>> >> get into this experiment which will be lifelong, I guarantee. >>>>>>>>> >> In fact, some folks know that open space and the approach can not >>>>>>>>> >> be >>>>>>>>> >> learned or taught but it can be remembered. In other words, we >>>>>>>>> >> already know about it. But all kind of circumstances have led to it >>>>>>>>> >> being burried deep down. >>>>>>>>> >> In so called open space "Trainings" where 97% of the time >>>>>>>>> >> everything >>>>>>>>> >> is entirely selforganizing, lasting 3 to 5 days (I love the 5 day >>>>>>>>> >> variety) where the trainers are mostly invisible, its been >>>>>>>>> >> observed, >>>>>>>>> >> that participants could no longer do without open space. >>>>>>>>> >> So, Bilbao is also a variety of "training" with the opportunity to >>>>>>>>> >> take a deep dive and upon surfacing you will breathe something that >>>>>>>>> >> you never experienced before. >>>>>>>>> >> For me, it was life changing. And that at the age of 56 with 3 >>>>>>>>> >> decades of all kinds of OD behing me and pretty sure that I knew >>>>>>>>> >> everything. It was tough work to drop my old habits and in a way it >>>>>>>>> >> still is. By the way, that was in 1996 at a "training" with >>>>>>>>> >> Harrison >>>>>>>>> >> Owen and Romy Shovelton in Roffey Park... >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> So, get on your motorcycle or start walking or hitchhiking towards >>>>>>>>> >> Bilbao and have a great time. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin >>>>>>>>> >> mmp >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> PS: Dont forget to include yourself in the Open Space World Map >>>>>>>>> >> https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion >>>>>>>>> >> and add a picture so I can see you when writing corresponding with >>>>>>>>> >> you. >>>>>>>>> >> At my age I rarely leave my neighborhood, but have a grand time >>>>>>>>> >> here... I might leave it once more if the next WOSonOS will be in >>>>>>>>> >> Berlin, I hear some folks are planning that for 2023... >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Am 08.09.2022 um 14:56 schrieb JF: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hello All, >>>>>>>>> >> I have been on this list and be interested in OST for many years. >>>>>>>>> >> Yet I have never (until now) taken the opportunity to develop this >>>>>>>>> >> interest further and actually participate and be involved with OST >>>>>>>>> >> events. >>>>>>>>> >> I am currently in a professional transition from being a manager in >>>>>>>>> >> a large engineering firm to becoming self employed project manager >>>>>>>>> >> with a view to help build collective intelligence in organisations >>>>>>>>> >> through innovative organisational structures (e.g. holacracy) and >>>>>>>>> >> various practices such as OST. >>>>>>>>> >> I would like to learn and experience more and I have been told >>>>>>>>> >> before that the best and only way to learn about OST is to >>>>>>>>> >> experience it first hand. That makes a lot of sense and I think >>>>>>>>> >> that >>>>>>>>> >> this would be a great eye opener for me as well as a growing >>>>>>>>> >> opportunity. Therefore I am contemplating participating in the next >>>>>>>>> >> OSonOS in Bilbao (I live in the south of France) but I want to make >>>>>>>>> >> sure that this is appropriate for someone who want to get initiated >>>>>>>>> >> in OST. >>>>>>>>> >> Thanks in advance for your comments and / or advice. >>>>>>>>> >> Regads, >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Jean-François (JF) >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:49 PM Michael M Pannwitz >>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Dear Gentza Eleder, >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> you might tell them that ost is an approach to expand time and >>>>>>>>> >> space >>>>>>>>> >> for the unfolding of selforganisation. It is not an intention of >>>>>>>>> >> ost >>>>>>>>> >> to change business culture, have better meetings or all the other >>>>>>>>> >> things one might find important. >>>>>>>>> >> It has been noticed however, that ost events bring about amazing >>>>>>>>> >> stuff every time those gatherings are convened and that folks find >>>>>>>>> >> that these were the best meetings they ever experienced. How that >>>>>>>>> >> happens has never been grasped. And participants are regularily >>>>>>>>> >> simply not interested to research this, they just want to get >>>>>>>>> >> going. >>>>>>>>> >> The important observation is that it works. And if it is used >>>>>>>>> >> regularily in an organisation those organisations change all by >>>>>>>>> >> themselves (see the decade long experiment in the Agency for Youth >>>>>>>>> >> in Europe). >>>>>>>>> >> Selforganisation has never been grasped but it is the central force >>>>>>>>> >> in the unfolding of everything that has happened on this planet for >>>>>>>>> >> billions of year. >>>>>>>>> >> It has been observed that some very few prerequisites need to be in >>>>>>>>> >> place to get the the right conditions for getting this experiment >>>>>>>>> >> in >>>>>>>>> >> selforganisation to unfold: sticky problem, high complexity of the >>>>>>>>> >> matter, large diversity of participants, high conflict and high >>>>>>>>> >> urgency to act and, not to forget, voluntarty participation. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Everyone attending our event in Bilbao is an expert, even experts >>>>>>>>> >> in >>>>>>>>> >> attendance that are zoologists, psychologists, anthropologists, >>>>>>>>> >> medicine men, sociologists, cooks, gardeners, plumbers, architects, >>>>>>>>> >> teachers, mothers and very important: children. If you have >>>>>>>>> >> children >>>>>>>>> >> and youngsters at the event among all the others you will find that >>>>>>>>> >> an amazing ingredient for the diversity soup. Nobody knows why and >>>>>>>>> >> it needs not to be researched, we have seen it. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hope you get a great film that is shown in all cinemas around the >>>>>>>>> >> world. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin >>>>>>>>> >> Love and Peace >>>>>>>>> >> mmp >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Am 23.08.2022 um 18:09 schrieb Gentza Eleder: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hi friends, how are you? >>>>>>>>> >> We are having since July some converations with GoodHabitz >>>>>>>>> >> Documentaries [2]. >>>>>>>>> >> They are very interested in OST and are planning to come to Bilbao >>>>>>>>> >> to film and make some interviews during the 28th World Open Space >>>>>>>>> >> on >>>>>>>>> >> Open Space. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Now, they asked something that I thought would be best to spread >>>>>>>>> >> through the OSLIST, as follows: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a >>>>>>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. >>>>>>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to >>>>>>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business >>>>>>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event? >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Would you, please, specially if planning to join as in Bilbao in >>>>>>>>> >> September, take some time to answer Marije (you can add us, as cc)? >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I've proposed her to join herself the OSLIST to take part directly >>>>>>>>> >> in the conversation or open new questions. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Best of all, >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Gentza Eleder >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> BuM_31 unJobbing >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Mundaka >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223 >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>>>>>> >> Em terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2022 às 10:10, Marije Kuipers >>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hi Gentza, good morning! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> How are you? Thanks for your email. Great answers! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I forgot to ask, have you been filmed before? And is it online? >>>>>>>>> >> Just >>>>>>>>> >> to get an idea :) >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a >>>>>>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. >>>>>>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to >>>>>>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business >>>>>>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event? >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hope to hear from you. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Thanks for your time and efforts! >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Have a good day, >>>>>>>>> >> Marije >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Michael M Pannwitz >>>>>>>>> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >>>>>>>>> > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Michael M Pannwitz >>>>>>>>> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >>>>>>>>> > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Links: >>>>>>>>> > ------ >>>>>>>>> > [1] https://proton.me/ >>>>>>>>> > [2] >>>>>>>>> > https://www.goodhabitz.com/en-gb/why-goodhabitz/doing-things-differently/goodhabitz-moments/ >>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> All is possible together >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Jo Toepfer, <>boscop eg <http://www.boscop.org/> >>>>> Boxhagener Str. 119B, 10245 Berlin >>>>> Tel: +49-(0)30-42018000 >>>>> Mob: +49-(0)176-22394083 >>>>> >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>
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