I agree with Kári. Bologna would be wonderful for 2024 - but also good to honour the tradition of continental shift. Nobody came forward in Bilbao, but you are right, Silvia, it would be good to ask. Warm regards, Ian
> On 12 Feb 2023, at 18:34, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sounds like a good idea, we can discuss it at the closing circle of the > Berlin OS > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, 17:13 Silvia Ferrari - mooncult via OSList, > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> while waiting to meet those of you who will be in Berlin, I would like to >> share with you a reflection on my proposal to host the Wosonos 2024 in >> Italy. Gerardo told me about a tradition that has long governed the >> transition from one Wosonos to another: the alternation of continents. >> If the Wosonos 2024 were in Italy, it would be the third year in a row in >> Europe. Perhaps it may not be very inclusive for those who do not live in >> Europe? Does it make sense perhaps to postpone my invitation to Italy to >> 2025 and see if there are other proposals for 2024? >> Tell me what you think. >> Thank you, >> Silvia >> >> Silvia Ferrari - mooncult >> Facilitator >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> - +393403434580 >> www.mooncult.it <http://www.mooncult.it/> >> >> >> >>> Il giorno 9 nov 2022, alle ore 16:51, Jo Toepfer via OSList >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto: >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> for those of you who did not attend the WOSonOS in Bilbao: Next stop is >>> Berlin. >>> >>> After 2000 and 2010 we will have the privilege to host the WOSonOS 2023 in >>> Berlin. No other candidate city raised the hand and the closing circle in >>> Bilbao was pretty clear. So, I took our talking stick back to Berlin where >>> it is waiting to be used in the next edition of the WOSonOS. >>> >>> Dates and location are already clear: >>> >>> October 18 through 21, 2023: We will get together on the evening of Oct 18 >>> for the opening evening / night / party. And, from Oct 19 through 21 we >>> will conduct a full scale 3-days Open Space event. >>> >>> The location is Beach Mitte <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> >>> <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> This is an inner city beach >>> resort with all kind of facilities and opportunities in Berlin downtown. >>> The management of this venue is highly interested in interactive management >>> and conference formats. They support hosting the WOSonOS in their venue >>> with a significant discount. They do not charge any rent for the venue we >>> only need to cover expenses for food, drinks and staff. This will allow us >>> to sell tickets for a moderate price. We will hopefully be able to start >>> selling the tickets by the end of this year. >>> >>> The International Association of Facilitators / Europe and Middle East >>> chapter will probably held their bi-annual conference in the same venue >>> just a few days before: Oct 16 through 18, 2023. Most likely, it will be >>> organised be the German IAF chapter which has a stronghold in Berlin. And >>> most of the IAF colleagues are familiar with Open Space and attended >>> WOSonOSes in the past. We intend to link the two events for participants >>> who are interested in attending both. >>> >>> In the closing circle in Bilbao we heard that some colleagues form Italy >>> are interested to host the coming WOSonOS in 2024 in Bologna. Is this still >>> valid? >>> >>> I hope to see many of you in Berlin next year. >>> >>> Warm regards >>> Jo >>> >>> ***************************** >>> >>> Am 14.10.22 um 15:04 schrieb Anna Caroline Türk: >>>> Dear JF, >>>> >>>> Thank you for taking the time to keep thinking out loud and to speak more >>>> to your chapters of your potential book. :) >>>> >>>> I hope other people will reply to your thoughtful exploration, and >>>> highlight what resonates with them. >>>> I have only passion to reply to two aspects that stand out for me in your >>>> mail. And while I might be disagreeing with what I hear, I hope this mail >>>> also conveys the spirit of an energized conversation, which we could >>>> quickly have over a coffee or tea in an in-person-meeting. And by then end >>>> leave with a smile as we agree to disagree. >>>> >>>> I am unsure what you refer to when you write, that you hear me when I >>>> expressed reservations regarding corporate resistance. >>>> I was hoping to convey that I have empathy with leaders who resist >>>> interventions that promote "organizational therapy" and "sexuality". (I am >>>> aware that I might taking you too literally here ...) >>>> >>>> But in that similar spirit you mention in your last mail that you believe >>>> that leaders "need a bit of shaken up. I think some corporate leaders >>>> recognize this and might be more attracted to thought provoking and >>>> intriguing notions. In that sense, I really like your proposal for breath >>>> and intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think of silence." >>>> >>>> We might be not too different in our perception, because we both like >>>> silence, but I disagree with the approach to shake people up. My approach >>>> would be to create a learning environment, a nourishing environment, >>>> rather than a provoking or shaking environment. >>>> >>>> I can only relate to my own learning preferences and I have find that I >>>> learn, expand and grow the most when I learn together in a life nourishing >>>> environment, where the intention is to create genuine connection with >>>> self, other and creation. I believe it is because of the breathing and >>>> sitting in a circle together that the wisdom of the group will emerge and >>>> best next steps will be identified by those who work (and live) together. >>>> This will includes both challenging and generating conversations. >>>> >>>> >>>> The other aspect I would like to point out is the notion of a "safe >>>> mechanism". You write: >>>> "Ideally, an open space event should allow people to raise issues or >>>> questions that they did not dare raise before. Mostly because there was no >>>> safe mechanism to do so. In open space, it is part of the game." >>>> I would say that instead of a "safe" mechanism", open space gives an >>>> "appropriate" mechanism. >>>> Do you mean its a safe mechanism - because Open Space will guarantee that >>>> everyone speaks up? >>>> I am quite careful with this assumption. Careful preparation with the >>>> leaders (and potentially other invitees) are mandatory to strengthen >>>> everyone's experience of Open Space as a space where conversations can be >>>> brought up, even if they are difficult. >>>> >>>> For the preparation I therefore include the following ( not complete list): >>>> Is this the right date and space for the Open Space >>>> Is the purpose clear >>>> Is there enough time allocated to this event - given the stated purpose of >>>> the Open Space >>>> Is the invitation text and the title open and inviting >>>> Is clear what is not up for discussion >>>> Is it clearly stated how leaders/participants work with the findings of >>>> this Open Space. >>>> Have leaders committed to and planned in follow up work >>>> Only when all of this is clear and explicit, do I trust that it provides a >>>> mechanism to bring up what needs to be discussed and maybe healed at that >>>> time. >>>> Following the principles of open space. >>>> >>>> So far my thoughts. >>>> >>>> Happy weekend, >>>> Anna Caroline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anna Caroline Türk >>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders >>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://truthcircles.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am Mo., 10. Okt. 2022 um 12:14 Uhr schrieb JF <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>> Hello Anna Caroline, >>>>> At this point, my week in Bilbao is indistinguishable from my OST >>>>> experience as a whole. Considering open space as primarily experiential >>>>> and personal, I would probably like to keep it this way. >>>>> I wrote this note as a spontaneous light hearted attempt to encapsulate >>>>> some fleeting thoughts and sensations that coalesced from the various >>>>> sessions I participated in. In that sense it is rooted in my specific OST >>>>> Bilbao experience. But I suppose it could be extrapolated to OST in >>>>> general. Some of the most personal experiences and meditations I had >>>>> while hiking on the basque coastline during the week-end are also present >>>>> here. >>>>> To be perfectly honest, I was also trying to be a little "tongue in >>>>> cheek" by bringing together seemingly unrelated and unexpected topics. >>>>> Those associations make sense to me but in a way that was more >>>>> instinctive than rational. I have not really rationalized further until >>>>> now. >>>>> I am very happy you are calling me on it however and I guess you are now >>>>> asking me to start writing the chapters of this hypothetical book. >>>>> I hear what you are saying about your reservations regarding corporate >>>>> resistance. However, one of my personal take away from my stay in Bilbao >>>>> is that if we truly believe that it is important to bring in >>>>> philosophical or spiritual considerations, we should be confident and >>>>> bold about it and not try to bow to a rather stiff corporate way. The >>>>> justification is that a unique and possibly unusual perspective is >>>>> precisely the highest value we can bring to the corporate world. The >>>>> relative stiffness and conformism of corporations (especially as they >>>>> grow big) is a core problem they face to remain nimble and innovative. >>>>> They need a bit of shaken up. I think some corporate leaders recognize >>>>> this and might be more attracted to thought provoking and intriguing >>>>> notions. In that sense, I really like your proposal for breath and >>>>> intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think of silence. >>>>> Now, that being said beyond slightly provocative titles the important >>>>> part is to bring some substance and valuable insights. So let me try to >>>>> give it a go on the two chapters you mention. >>>>> >>>>> Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>> Well, obviously that title is meant to be both provocative and confusing. >>>>> I mean, what is the relation between quantum physics and sexuality right? >>>>> You rightly picked up on sexuality which is taboo especially in the >>>>> workplace. Organizations are now essentially a-sexual. We should >>>>> certainly celebrate the progress that has been made to make harassment in >>>>> the workplace unacceptable and we must continue in this direction. At the >>>>> same time most of us are not asexual and I think it is both illusory and >>>>> hypocritical to ask people to switch off their sexual energy while at >>>>> work. One of the session we had in Bilbao offers a possible avenue of >>>>> exploration by expanding on the notion of sexual energy. >>>>> To be precise, the session was about sacred sexuality as a tool for >>>>> social transformation. During the session, we danced in order to loosen >>>>> up and then we explored levels of intimacy through a guided shared >>>>> experience of our 5 senses. It was very intense and sometimes quite >>>>> challenging. I personally found it disturbing and difficult but also >>>>> liberating. For instance, when you do spend even a few seconds with >>>>> someone, smelling each other, it does change how you relate to one >>>>> another. So that is the social transformation part. It is very >>>>> animalistic and I guess it's the point. >>>>> In sacred sexuality we try to connect to the primal energy of creation. >>>>> As the convener of the session defines it : "the energy of sacred >>>>> sexuality, as the energy of life creation, which helps us to integrate >>>>> our accepted and denied parts (lights and shadows) and leads to living in >>>>> TOTALITY". The ability to be totally present (oneness) is a theme that >>>>> should resonate with many visionary organisations / leaders. It is about >>>>> reclaiming sexual energy which had been repressed by religion and has now >>>>> been commercialized and consequently distorted. >>>>> This is in essence a spiritual journey. That primal energy relates to the >>>>> "eros" of the ancient greek. It is the same energy which pushes a blade >>>>> of grass to grow even through a small crack in the pavement. It is in a >>>>> sense the energy of life. This creative energy is at the core of >>>>> reproduction and sexuality but it can also be expressed in ways that are >>>>> not purely sexual. This is the key that is offered here. Rather than >>>>> trying to suppress and repress sexual energy the proposal is to find ways >>>>> to transcend and harness this powerful energy and express it in ways that >>>>> are safe and respectful as well as fruitful and transformative. >>>>> I see this primal energy as a potential. Something that can be felt and >>>>> that stirs us. It is like a fire inside which can consume us or which we >>>>> can learn to utilize in productive and creative ways. This energy exists >>>>> but it is not real until we actualize it into action on the world. And >>>>> this is the link with quantum physics. Quantum particles have a >>>>> probability state or quantum wave function which is unknown and >>>>> unknowable until it is collapsed through observation. This connection >>>>> would need further elaboration but there maybe something interesting. >>>>> >>>>> Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>> I suppose organizational therapy would be more correct. I guess the >>>>> reason why you picked up therapy has somewhat corporate inappropriate has >>>>> to do with stigma around mental health and psychotherapy. Mental health >>>>> is a hot issue in corporations these days. HR departments all over are >>>>> working hard to dissipate that stigma and to create safe places for >>>>> people to express their vulnerability. At an individual level I believe >>>>> this is driven by empathy and acceptance. From the point of view of the >>>>> organization, the motivations might be more about safety, innovation and >>>>> ultimately productivity. >>>>> I personally have reservations about the notion of mental illness because >>>>> it tends to push the responsibility on the individual. It implies that it >>>>> is the individual who is ill and therefore requires treatment. Worse >>>>> still, treatment too often equates to chemicals. While it is true that >>>>> individually we ought to do work on ourselves and deal with whatever >>>>> issues we have or have inherited, I believe that a more holistic >>>>> perspective is more fruitful and sustainable. It would need to recognize >>>>> that the social, societal and organizational contexts are also very >>>>> important to mental well being. >>>>> Many therapies are based on language and open communication. They require >>>>> a space that is safe and free of judgment. I think Open Space can provide >>>>> that and in a sense aims to do that by default. We call on passion and >>>>> responsibility. Both are challenging in their own way. Passion in >>>>> particular can expose some of our vulnerabilities. Ideally, an open space >>>>> event should allow people to raise issues or questions that they did not >>>>> dare raise before. Mostly because there was no safe mechanism to do so. >>>>> In open space, it is part of the game. This in itself (taking the >>>>> skeleton out of the closet) is already therapeutic for both the >>>>> individual and the group. The discussion that ensues, provided that it is >>>>> done with respect, can also have very therapeutic effects. People feel >>>>> heard. The organization has an opportunity to grow and even maybe heal >>>>> some untold conflict or misunderstanding. >>>>> >>>>> So here it is, I hope it offers some clarification and hopefully triggers >>>>> further thought. I look forward to further feedback and discussion. >>>>> Most kind regards, >>>>> JF >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:02 PM Anna Caroline Türk >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi JF, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am happy you enjoyed your Open Space experience in Bilbao. >>>>>> I wondering if your list speaks to your week in Bilbao or to your >>>>>> experience of Open Space Technology? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Your List / potential chapters of a book" include: >>>>>> Coming home to transformation >>>>>> Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>>> Matter, time and the architecture or open space >>>>>> Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket >>>>>> Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>>> Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity as fit for >>>>>> purpose solution) >>>>>> You spoke about your perceptions that leaders might be afraid of >>>>>> applying OST in the corporate context. >>>>>> I feel some resistance when I read "sexuality" and "therapy" - can you >>>>>> speak more to your points so I can understand this better? >>>>>> >>>>>> When I think of a list/ chapters about OST I can imagine including: >>>>>> invitation >>>>>> circle >>>>>> breath >>>>>> emergence >>>>>> energy >>>>>> creation >>>>>> power >>>>>> connection >>>>>> intimacy >>>>>> genuine connections >>>>>> wisdom >>>>>> actions >>>>>> What would others add to their list/chapter of a book about Open Space >>>>>> Technology? >>>>>> >>>>>> Greetings from Berlin >>>>>> Anna Caroline >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anna Caroline Türk >>>>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders >>>>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://truthcircles.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 14:14 Uhr schrieb Thomas Perret >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>> Open Space as social therapy! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I love it. Especially as a chapter in a book. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I feel your message and I look forward to my next coming home to >>>>>>> transformation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, Thomas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2022-10-04 09:10, JF wrote: >>>>>>> > Hello Everyone, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > So here I am back from an intense and very rewarding OST experience in >>>>>>> > Bilbao. It was indeed a very transformative moment right at the >>>>>>> > inflexion point of my personal and professional development. The funny >>>>>>> > thing though is that despite the novelty and all the new faces it felt >>>>>>> > like coming home. A feeling hard to explain but I suspect people on >>>>>>> > this list would understand. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > As I was driving back on Saturday there were so many thoughts coming >>>>>>> > through my mind I thought I could probably write a whole book about >>>>>>> > this amazing week in Basque country. Here are some of the chapters >>>>>>> > title for that book: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > * Coming home to transformation >>>>>>> > * Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>>>> > * Matter, time and the architecture or open space >>>>>>> > * Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket >>>>>>> > * Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>>>> > * Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity as >>>>>>> > fit >>>>>>> > for purpose solution) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I would like to thank everyone for a very warm welcome and amazing >>>>>>> > discussions and thank you for the encouragement from people on this >>>>>>> > list to make the trip. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Most warm greetings and hugs, >>>>>>> > JF >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:44 PM ingrid ebeling ebus >>>>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Dear Gentza, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> well, yesterday I decided to come and join the WOSonOS 2022 in >>>>>>> >> Bilbao. I hesitated for quite a while, taking the train 32 hours or >>>>>>> >> what ever. All the sudden it seemed to be easy and got myself a >>>>>>> >> flight ticket. >>>>>>> >> Regarding the accommodation I need some help. Earlier you mentioned >>>>>>> >> a centric new hostel 5 minutes´ walk from the WOSonOS. How can I >>>>>>> >> find out, whether it is still available or find an alternative >>>>>>> >> house? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Now I’m looking forward seeing you all. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Ingrid >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Systemic Prozess facilitation Executive Coaching • Large Group >>>>>>> >> Intervention >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover • Germany >>>>>>> >> fon +49-511-336 03 30 • mobile +49-172-5145179 >>>>>>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Am 09.09.2022 um 10:31 schrieb Gentza Eleder >>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hi Jean Fracnçois! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I'm happy about your decission! >>>>>>> >> Let us know if there's anything we could help you with. >>>>>>> >> Same for anyone that still is considering to take part totally or >>>>>>> >> partially in the WOS week in Bilbao, we are happy to make it >>>>>>> >> easaier to you! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> We are passionate about making it easier to anyone that feels the >>>>>>> >> thrill and the passion on this gathering to join us! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> The "travel" is being so nice! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Best wishes! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Mundaka >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ps. Michael, we'll keep you in our hearts Bilbao, and will do our >>>>>>> >> best to join you some day, maybe next year, in Berlin! Thanks so >>>>>>> >> much for your support! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Em quinta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2022 às 22:25, JF >>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thank you so much Michael for your warm and inspiring message. I >>>>>>> >> will definitely be in Bilbao, and am looking forward to it. >>>>>>> >> Gentza, I had read the OST user guide a few year's back but it has >>>>>>> >> been a while so a good suggestion to re-read it. I will see how much >>>>>>> >> I am able to commit for the Bilbao OS. For sure I'ld like to >>>>>>> >> participate to the OSonOS I will have to see about the earlier >>>>>>> >> session. If so yes helping preparing the space is probably a good >>>>>>> >> idea. I have organised concerts before and I do appreciate the >>>>>>> >> thrill of anticipation. >>>>>>> >> Thank you all, >>>>>>> >> JF >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 PM WilbaOS <[email protected] >>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Michael, thanks so much, first of all for your shiny explanation on >>>>>>> >> the message 08.09 on self-organization taken place in OST meetings, >>>>>>> >> and we just willing to re-enjoy this, not so much looking for an >>>>>>> >> explanation, that's it! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I'm sure we'll witness this magic soon in Bilbao (jsut 3 weeks!)). >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dear Jean François, my previous experience with WOSonOS has been >>>>>>> >> always so rewarding, that, feeling a bit sad after two years in >>>>>>> >> which we had no way to ressemble, I asked around and, after a few >>>>>>> >> colleagues said "go ahead" in December, we started joyfully with our >>>>>>> >> small dream. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Now we are happy to see that around 40 people we'll be enjoying 2 OS >>>>>>> >> meetings in Bilbao soon. We espce that many more will sign up during >>>>>>> >> next days (if some of you are considering it, please contact us for >>>>>>> >> whatever we could help you: [email protected] >>>>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 26+27th of September, withe the ample question: 2020+ Complex times: >>>>>>> >> how are we going ahead in cooperative ways? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 29th+30th of September: how can we refine and expand our OS practice >>>>>>> >> all over the world? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> JF, I invite you, if having time, to read "Open Space Technology: >>>>>>> >> the user's guide (Harrison Owen)", and if you are willing, join us >>>>>>> >> in the practice of preparing the space during the 23th September and >>>>>>> >> / or 28th. Let us know if we can anyhow make your coming easier! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Regarding the Goodhabitz documentary, they'll be coming to WOSonOS >>>>>>> >> in Bilbao, and we'll thank some of you answering to their >>>>>>> >> interviews. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Looking forward to meet you soon in Bilbao! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thansk for spreading the heartly invitation! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gentza Eleder >>>>>>> >> Mundaka/Bilbao >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> https://twitter.com/OpenSpace_EH >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Sent with Proton Mail [1] secure email. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>>>> >> On Thursday, September 8th, 2022 at 16:45, Michael M Pannwitz >>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dear Jean-Francois, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> yes, experiencing open space in an OST setting is the best way to >>>>>>> >> get into this experiment which will be lifelong, I guarantee. >>>>>>> >> In fact, some folks know that open space and the approach can not be >>>>>>> >> learned or taught but it can be remembered. In other words, we >>>>>>> >> already know about it. But all kind of circumstances have led to it >>>>>>> >> being burried deep down. >>>>>>> >> In so called open space "Trainings" where 97% of the time everything >>>>>>> >> is entirely selforganizing, lasting 3 to 5 days (I love the 5 day >>>>>>> >> variety) where the trainers are mostly invisible, its been observed, >>>>>>> >> that participants could no longer do without open space. >>>>>>> >> So, Bilbao is also a variety of "training" with the opportunity to >>>>>>> >> take a deep dive and upon surfacing you will breathe something that >>>>>>> >> you never experienced before. >>>>>>> >> For me, it was life changing. And that at the age of 56 with 3 >>>>>>> >> decades of all kinds of OD behing me and pretty sure that I knew >>>>>>> >> everything. It was tough work to drop my old habits and in a way it >>>>>>> >> still is. By the way, that was in 1996 at a "training" with Harrison >>>>>>> >> Owen and Romy Shovelton in Roffey Park... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> So, get on your motorcycle or start walking or hitchhiking towards >>>>>>> >> Bilbao and have a great time. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin >>>>>>> >> mmp >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> PS: Dont forget to include yourself in the Open Space World Map >>>>>>> >> https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion >>>>>>> >> and add a picture so I can see you when writing corresponding with >>>>>>> >> you. >>>>>>> >> At my age I rarely leave my neighborhood, but have a grand time >>>>>>> >> here... I might leave it once more if the next WOSonOS will be in >>>>>>> >> Berlin, I hear some folks are planning that for 2023... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Am 08.09.2022 um 14:56 schrieb JF: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hello All, >>>>>>> >> I have been on this list and be interested in OST for many years. >>>>>>> >> Yet I have never (until now) taken the opportunity to develop this >>>>>>> >> interest further and actually participate and be involved with OST >>>>>>> >> events. >>>>>>> >> I am currently in a professional transition from being a manager in >>>>>>> >> a large engineering firm to becoming self employed project manager >>>>>>> >> with a view to help build collective intelligence in organisations >>>>>>> >> through innovative organisational structures (e.g. holacracy) and >>>>>>> >> various practices such as OST. >>>>>>> >> I would like to learn and experience more and I have been told >>>>>>> >> before that the best and only way to learn about OST is to >>>>>>> >> experience it first hand. That makes a lot of sense and I think that >>>>>>> >> this would be a great eye opener for me as well as a growing >>>>>>> >> opportunity. Therefore I am contemplating participating in the next >>>>>>> >> OSonOS in Bilbao (I live in the south of France) but I want to make >>>>>>> >> sure that this is appropriate for someone who want to get initiated >>>>>>> >> in OST. >>>>>>> >> Thanks in advance for your comments and / or advice. >>>>>>> >> Regads, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Jean-François (JF) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:49 PM Michael M Pannwitz >>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Dear Gentza Eleder, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> you might tell them that ost is an approach to expand time and space >>>>>>> >> for the unfolding of selforganisation. It is not an intention of ost >>>>>>> >> to change business culture, have better meetings or all the other >>>>>>> >> things one might find important. >>>>>>> >> It has been noticed however, that ost events bring about amazing >>>>>>> >> stuff every time those gatherings are convened and that folks find >>>>>>> >> that these were the best meetings they ever experienced. How that >>>>>>> >> happens has never been grasped. And participants are regularily >>>>>>> >> simply not interested to research this, they just want to get going. >>>>>>> >> The important observation is that it works. And if it is used >>>>>>> >> regularily in an organisation those organisations change all by >>>>>>> >> themselves (see the decade long experiment in the Agency for Youth >>>>>>> >> in Europe). >>>>>>> >> Selforganisation has never been grasped but it is the central force >>>>>>> >> in the unfolding of everything that has happened on this planet for >>>>>>> >> billions of year. >>>>>>> >> It has been observed that some very few prerequisites need to be in >>>>>>> >> place to get the the right conditions for getting this experiment in >>>>>>> >> selforganisation to unfold: sticky problem, high complexity of the >>>>>>> >> matter, large diversity of participants, high conflict and high >>>>>>> >> urgency to act and, not to forget, voluntarty participation. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Everyone attending our event in Bilbao is an expert, even experts in >>>>>>> >> attendance that are zoologists, psychologists, anthropologists, >>>>>>> >> medicine men, sociologists, cooks, gardeners, plumbers, architects, >>>>>>> >> teachers, mothers and very important: children. If you have children >>>>>>> >> and youngsters at the event among all the others you will find that >>>>>>> >> an amazing ingredient for the diversity soup. Nobody knows why and >>>>>>> >> it needs not to be researched, we have seen it. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hope you get a great film that is shown in all cinemas around the >>>>>>> >> world. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin >>>>>>> >> Love and Peace >>>>>>> >> mmp >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Am 23.08.2022 um 18:09 schrieb Gentza Eleder: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hi friends, how are you? >>>>>>> >> We are having since July some converations with GoodHabitz >>>>>>> >> Documentaries [2]. >>>>>>> >> They are very interested in OST and are planning to come to Bilbao >>>>>>> >> to film and make some interviews during the 28th World Open Space on >>>>>>> >> Open Space. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Now, they asked something that I thought would be best to spread >>>>>>> >> through the OSLIST, as follows: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a >>>>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. >>>>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to >>>>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business >>>>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Would you, please, specially if planning to join as in Bilbao in >>>>>>> >> September, take some time to answer Marije (you can add us, as cc)? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I've proposed her to join herself the OSLIST to take part directly >>>>>>> >> in the conversation or open new questions. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Best of all, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gentza Eleder >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> BuM_31 unJobbing >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Mundaka >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>>>> >> Em terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2022 às 10:10, Marije Kuipers >>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>> >> escreveu: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hi Gentza, good morning! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> How are you? Thanks for your email. Great answers! >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I forgot to ask, have you been filmed before? And is it online? Just >>>>>>> >> to get an idea :) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> .... >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a >>>>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. >>>>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. 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