Thank you! I just booked a ticket. I am looking forward to seeing many of you there.
Anna Caroline *Anna Caroline Türk* Mentor to Visionary Leaders +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://TruthCircles.com> Am Mi., 15. Feb. 2023 um 09:20 Uhr schrieb Jo Toepfer via OSList < [email protected]>: > dear colleagues, > > by the way: the event website for the 2023 WOSonOS in Berlin is live now: > > https://www.wosonos2023.berlin/ > > You can book your ticket and your hotel and we are happy to see many of > you here in Berlin. > > Warm regards > Jo > > ******************************** > Am 12.02.23 um 18:34 schrieb Kári Gunnarsson via OSList: > > Sounds like a good idea, we can discuss it at the closing circle of the > Berlin OS > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, 17:13 Silvia Ferrari - mooncult via OSList, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> while waiting to meet those of you who will be in Berlin, I would like to >> share with you a reflection on my proposal to host the Wosonos 2024 in >> Italy. Gerardo told me about a tradition that has long governed the >> transition from one Wosonos to another: the alternation of continents. >> If the Wosonos 2024 were in Italy, it would be the third year in a row in >> Europe. Perhaps it may not be very inclusive for those who do not live in >> Europe? Does it make sense perhaps to postpone my invitation to Italy to >> 2025 and see if there are other proposals for 2024? >> Tell me what you think. >> Thank you, >> Silvia >> >> *Silvia Ferrari - mooncult* >> *Facilitator * >> [email protected] - +393403434580 >> www.mooncult.it >> >> >> Il giorno 9 nov 2022, alle ore 16:51, Jo Toepfer via OSList < >> [email protected]> ha scritto: >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> for those of you who did not attend the WOSonOS in Bilbao: Next stop is >> Berlin. >> >> After 2000 and 2010 we will have the privilege to host the WOSonOS 2023 >> in Berlin. No other candidate city raised the hand and the closing circle >> in Bilbao was pretty clear. So, I took our talking stick back to Berlin >> where it is waiting to be used in the next edition of the WOSonOS. >> >> Dates and location are already clear: >> >> October 18 through 21, 2023: We will get together on the evening of Oct >> 18 for the opening evening / night / party. And, from Oct 19 through 21 we >> will conduct a full scale 3-days Open Space event. >> >> The location is Beach Mitte <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> >> <https://beachmitte-events.de/locations/> This is an inner city beach >> resort with all kind of facilities and opportunities in Berlin downtown. >> The management of this venue is highly interested in interactive management >> and conference formats. They support hosting the WOSonOS in their venue >> with a significant discount. They do not charge any rent for the venue we >> only need to cover expenses for food, drinks and staff. This will allow us >> to sell tickets for a moderate price. We will hopefully be able to start >> selling the tickets by the end of this year. >> >> The International Association of Facilitators / Europe and Middle East >> chapter will probably held their bi-annual conference in the same venue >> just a few days before: Oct 16 through 18, 2023. Most likely, it will be >> organised be the German IAF chapter which has a stronghold in Berlin. And >> most of the IAF colleagues are familiar with Open Space and attended >> WOSonOSes in the past. We intend to link the two events for participants >> who are interested in attending both. >> >> In the closing circle in Bilbao we heard that some colleagues form Italy >> are interested to host the coming WOSonOS in 2024 in Bologna. Is this still >> valid? >> >> I hope to see many of you in Berlin next year. >> >> Warm regards >> Jo >> >> ***************************** >> Am 14.10.22 um 15:04 schrieb Anna Caroline Türk: >> >> Dear JF, >> >> Thank you for taking the time to keep thinking out loud and to speak more >> to your chapters of your potential book. :) >> >> I hope other people will reply to your thoughtful exploration, and >> highlight what resonates with them. >> I have only passion to reply to two aspects that stand out for me in your >> mail. And while I might be disagreeing with what I hear, I hope this >> mail also conveys the spirit of an energized conversation, which we could >> quickly have over a coffee or tea in an in-person-meeting. And by then end >> leave with a smile as we agree to disagree. >> >> I am unsure what you refer to when you write, that you hear me when I >> expressed reservations regarding corporate resistance. >> I was hoping to convey that I have empathy with leaders who resist >> interventions that promote "organizational therapy" and "sexuality". (I am >> aware that I might taking you too literally here ...) >> >> But in that similar spirit you mention in your last mail that you believe >> that leaders "need a bit of shaken up. I think some corporate leaders >> recognize this and might be more attracted to thought provoking and >> intriguing notions. In that sense, I really like your proposal for breath >> and intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think of silence." >> >> We might be not too different in our perception, because we both like >> silence, but I disagree with the approach to shake people up. My approach >> would be to create a learning environment, a nourishing environment, rather >> than a provoking or shaking environment. >> >> I can only relate to my own learning preferences and I have find that I >> learn, expand and grow the most when I learn together in a life nourishing >> environment, where the intention is to create genuine connection with self, >> other and creation. I believe it is because of the breathing and sitting >> in a circle together that the wisdom of the group will emerge and best next >> steps will be identified by those who work (and live) together. This >> will includes both challenging and generating conversations. >> >> >> The other aspect I would like to point out is the notion of a "safe >> mechanism". You write: >> "Ideally, an open space event should allow people to raise issues or >> questions that they did not dare raise before. Mostly because there was no >> safe mechanism to do so. In open space, it is part of the game." >> I would say that instead of a "safe" mechanism", open space gives an >> "appropriate" mechanism. >> Do you mean its a safe mechanism - because Open Space will guarantee >> that everyone speaks up? >> I am quite careful with this assumption. Careful preparation with the >> leaders (and potentially other invitees) are mandatory to strengthen >> everyone's experience of Open Space as a space where conversations can be >> brought up, even if they are difficult. >> >> For the preparation I therefore include the following ( not complete >> list): >> >> - Is this the right date and space for the Open Space >> - Is the purpose clear >> - Is there enough time allocated to this event - given >> the stated purpose of the Open Space >> - Is the invitation text and the title open and inviting >> - Is clear what is not up for discussion >> - Is it clearly stated how leaders/participants work with the >> findings of this Open Space. >> - Have leaders committed to and planned in follow up work >> >> Only when all of this is clear and explicit, do I trust that it provides >> a mechanism to bring up what needs to be discussed and maybe healed at that >> time. >> Following the principles of open space. >> >> So far my thoughts. >> >> Happy weekend, >> Anna Caroline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Anna Caroline Türk* >> Mentor to Visionary Leaders >> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://truthcircles.com/> >> >> >> Am Mo., 10. Okt. 2022 um 12:14 Uhr schrieb JF <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hello Anna Caroline, >>> >>> At this point, my week in Bilbao is indistinguishable from my OST >>> experience as a whole. Considering open space as primarily experiential and >>> personal, I would probably like to keep it this way. >>> >>> I wrote this note as a spontaneous light hearted attempt to encapsulate >>> some fleeting thoughts and sensations that coalesced from the various >>> sessions I participated in. In that sense it is rooted in my specific OST >>> Bilbao experience. But I suppose it could be extrapolated to OST in >>> general. Some of the most personal experiences and meditations I had while >>> hiking on the basque coastline during the week-end are also present here. >>> >>> To be perfectly honest, I was also trying to be a little "tongue in >>> cheek" by bringing together seemingly unrelated and unexpected topics. >>> Those associations make sense to me but in a way that was more instinctive >>> than rational. I have not really rationalized further until now. >>> >>> I am very happy you are calling me on it however and I guess you are now >>> asking me to start writing the chapters of this hypothetical book. >>> >>> I hear what you are saying about your reservations regarding corporate >>> resistance. However, one of my personal take away from my stay in Bilbao is >>> that if we truly believe that it is important to bring in philosophical or >>> spiritual considerations, we should be confident and bold about it and not >>> try to bow to a rather stiff corporate way. The justification is that a >>> unique and possibly unusual perspective is precisely the highest value we >>> can bring to the corporate world. The relative stiffness and conformism of >>> corporations (especially as they grow big) is a core problem they face to >>> remain nimble and innovative. They need a bit of shaken up. I think >>> some corporate leaders recognize this and might be more attracted to >>> thought provoking and intriguing notions. In that sense, I really like your >>> proposal for breath and intimacy. And for some reason that makes me think >>> of silence. >>> >>> Now, that being said beyond slightly provocative titles the important >>> part is to bring some substance and valuable insights. So let me try to >>> give it a go on the two chapters you mention. >>> >>> >>> *Energy, sexuality and quantum physics* >>> >>> Well, obviously that title is meant to be both provocative and >>> confusing. I mean, what is the relation between quantum physics and >>> sexuality right? >>> >>> You rightly picked up on sexuality which is taboo especially in the >>> workplace. Organizations are now essentially a-sexual. We should certainly >>> celebrate the progress that has been made to make harassment in the >>> workplace unacceptable and we must continue in this direction. At the same >>> time most of us are not asexual and I think it is both illusory and >>> hypocritical to ask people to switch off their sexual energy while at work. >>> One of the session we had in Bilbao offers a possible avenue of exploration >>> by expanding on the notion of sexual energy. >>> >>> To be precise, the session was about *sacred* sexuality as a tool for >>> social transformation. During the session, we danced in order to loosen up >>> and then we explored levels of intimacy through a guided shared experience >>> of our 5 senses. It was very intense and sometimes quite challenging. I >>> personally found it disturbing and difficult but also liberating. For >>> instance, when you do spend even a few seconds with someone, smelling each >>> other, it does change how you relate to one another. So that is the social >>> transformation part. It is very animalistic and I guess it's the point. >>> >>> In sacred sexuality we try to connect to the primal energy of creation. >>> As the convener of the session defines it : "the energy of sacred >>> sexuality, as the energy of life creation, which helps us to integrate our >>> accepted and denied parts (lights and shadows) and leads to living in >>> TOTALITY". The ability to be totally present (oneness) is a theme that >>> should resonate with many visionary organisations / leaders. It is about >>> reclaiming sexual energy which had been repressed by religion and has now >>> been commercialized and consequently distorted. >>> >>> This is in essence a spiritual journey. That primal energy relates to >>> the "eros" of the ancient greek. It is the same energy which pushes a blade >>> of grass to grow even through a small crack in the pavement. It is in a >>> sense the energy of life. This creative energy is at the core of >>> reproduction and sexuality but it can also be expressed in ways that are >>> not purely sexual. This is the key that is offered here. Rather than trying >>> to suppress and repress sexual energy the proposal is to find ways to >>> transcend and harness this powerful energy and express it in ways that are >>> safe and respectful as well as fruitful and transformative. >>> >>> I see this primal energy as a potential. Something that can be felt and >>> that stirs us. It is like a fire inside which can consume us or which we >>> can learn to utilize in productive and creative ways. This energy exists >>> but it is not real until we actualize it into action on the world. And this >>> is the link with quantum physics. Quantum particles have a probability >>> state or quantum wave function which is unknown and unknowable until it is >>> collapsed through observation. This connection would need further >>> elaboration but there maybe something interesting. >>> >>> >>> *Open Space as social and personal therapy* >>> >>> I suppose organizational therapy would be more correct. I guess the >>> reason why you picked up therapy has somewhat corporate inappropriate has >>> to do with stigma around mental health and psychotherapy. Mental health is >>> a hot issue in corporations these days. HR departments all over are working >>> hard to dissipate that stigma and to create safe places for people to >>> express their vulnerability. At an individual level I believe this is >>> driven by empathy and acceptance. From the point of view of the >>> organization, the motivations might be more about safety, innovation and >>> ultimately productivity. >>> >>> I personally have reservations about the notion of mental illness >>> because it tends to push the responsibility on the individual. It implies >>> that it is the individual who is ill and therefore requires treatment. >>> Worse still, treatment too often equates to chemicals. While it is true >>> that individually we ought to do work on ourselves and deal with whatever >>> issues we have or have inherited, I believe that a more holistic >>> perspective is more fruitful and sustainable. It would need to recognize >>> that the social, societal and organizational contexts are also very >>> important to mental well being. >>> >>> Many therapies are based on language and open communication. They >>> require a space that is safe and free of judgment. I think Open Space can >>> provide that and in a sense aims to do that by default. We call on passion >>> and responsibility. Both are challenging in their own way. Passion in >>> particular can expose some of our vulnerabilities. Ideally, an open space >>> event should allow people to raise issues or questions that they did not >>> dare raise before. Mostly because there was no safe mechanism to do so. In >>> open space, it is part of the game. This in itself (taking the skeleton out >>> of the closet) is already therapeutic for both the individual and the >>> group. The discussion that ensues, provided that it is done with respect, >>> can also have very therapeutic effects. People feel heard. The organization >>> has an opportunity to grow and even maybe heal some untold conflict or >>> misunderstanding. >>> >>> >>> So here it is, I hope it offers some clarification and hopefully >>> triggers further thought. I look forward to further feedback and >>> discussion. >>> >>> Most kind regards, >>> >>> JF >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:02 PM Anna Caroline Türk < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi JF, >>>> >>>> I am happy you enjoyed your Open Space experience in Bilbao. >>>> I wondering if your list speaks to your week in Bilbao or to your >>>> experience of Open Space Technology? >>>> >>>> "Your List / potential chapters of a book" include: >>>> >>>> - Coming home to transformation >>>> - Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>> - Matter, time and the architecture or open space >>>> - Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket >>>> - Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>> - Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity as fit >>>> for purpose solution) >>>> >>>> You spoke about your perceptions that leaders might be afraid of >>>> applying OST in the corporate context. >>>> I feel some resistance when I read "sexuality" and "therapy" - can you >>>> speak more to your points so I can understand this better? >>>> >>>> When I think of a list/ chapters about OST I can imagine including: >>>> >>>> - invitation >>>> - circle >>>> - breath >>>> - emergence >>>> - energy >>>> - creation >>>> - power >>>> - connection >>>> - intimacy >>>> - genuine connections >>>> - wisdom >>>> - actions >>>> >>>> What would others add to their list/chapter of a book about Open Space >>>> Technology? >>>> >>>> Greetings from Berlin >>>> Anna Caroline >>>> >>>> >>>> *Anna Caroline Türk* >>>> Mentor to Visionary Leaders >>>> +49(0)176 24872254 | TruthCircles.com <http://truthcircles.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 14:14 Uhr schrieb Thomas Perret < >>>> [email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Open Space as social therapy! >>>>> >>>>> I love it. Especially as a chapter in a book. >>>>> >>>>> I feel your message and I look forward to my next coming home to >>>>> transformation. >>>>> >>>>> Best, Thomas >>>>> >>>>> On 2022-10-04 09:10, JF wrote: >>>>> > Hello Everyone, >>>>> > >>>>> > So here I am back from an intense and very rewarding OST experience >>>>> in >>>>> > Bilbao. It was indeed a very transformative moment right at the >>>>> > inflexion point of my personal and professional development. The >>>>> funny >>>>> > thing though is that despite the novelty and all the new faces it >>>>> felt >>>>> > like coming home. A feeling hard to explain but I suspect people on >>>>> > this list would understand. >>>>> > >>>>> > As I was driving back on Saturday there were so many thoughts coming >>>>> > through my mind I thought I could probably write a whole book about >>>>> > this amazing week in Basque country. Here are some of the chapters >>>>> > title for that book: >>>>> > >>>>> > * Coming home to transformation >>>>> > * Energy, sexuality and quantum physics >>>>> > * Matter, time and the architecture or open space >>>>> > * Can touchy-feely break corporate dogmatic straitjacket >>>>> > * Open Space as social and personal therapy >>>>> > * Comprehensiveness and perceived randomness (or spontaneity >>>>> as fit >>>>> > for purpose solution) >>>>> > >>>>> > I would like to thank everyone for a very warm welcome and amazing >>>>> > discussions and thank you for the encouragement from people on this >>>>> > list to make the trip. >>>>> > >>>>> > Most warm greetings and hugs, >>>>> > JF >>>>> > >>>>> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:44 PM ingrid ebeling ebus >>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Dear Gentza, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> well, yesterday I decided to come and join the WOSonOS 2022 in >>>>> >> Bilbao. I hesitated for quite a while, taking the train 32 hours or >>>>> >> what ever. All the sudden it seemed to be easy and got myself a >>>>> >> flight ticket. >>>>> >> Regarding the accommodation I need some help. Earlier you mentioned >>>>> >> a centric new hostel 5 minutes´ walk from the WOSonOS. How can I >>>>> >> find out, whether it is still available or find an alternative >>>>> >> house? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Now I’m looking forward seeing you all. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ingrid >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ingrid Ebeling, EBUS >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Systemic Prozess facilitation Executive Coaching • Large Group >>>>> >> Intervention >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Am Alten Gehäge 6 • D- 30657 Hannover • Germany >>>>> >> fon +49-511-336 03 30 • mobile +49-172-5145179 >>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Am 09.09.2022 um 10:31 schrieb Gentza Eleder >>>>> >> <[email protected]>: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Jean Fracnçois! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'm happy about your decission! >>>>> >> Let us know if there's anything we could help you with. >>>>> >> Same for anyone that still is considering to take part totally or >>>>> >> partially in the WOS week in Bilbao, we are happy to make it >>>>> >> easaier to you! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> We are passionate about making it easier to anyone that feels the >>>>> >> thrill and the passion on this gathering to join us! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The "travel" is being so nice! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Best wishes! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Mundaka >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ps. Michael, we'll keep you in our hearts Bilbao, and will do our >>>>> >> best to join you some day, maybe next year, in Berlin! Thanks so >>>>> >> much for your support! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Em quinta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2022 às 22:25, JF >>>>> >> <[email protected]> escreveu: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thank you so much Michael for your warm and inspiring message. I >>>>> >> will definitely be in Bilbao, and am looking forward to it. >>>>> >> Gentza, I had read the OST user guide a few year's back but it has >>>>> >> been a while so a good suggestion to re-read it. I will see how much >>>>> >> I am able to commit for the Bilbao OS. For sure I'ld like to >>>>> >> participate to the OSonOS I will have to see about the earlier >>>>> >> session. If so yes helping preparing the space is probably a good >>>>> >> idea. I have organised concerts before and I do appreciate the >>>>> >> thrill of anticipation. >>>>> >> Thank you all, >>>>> >> JF >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 5:37 PM WilbaOS <[email protected]> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Michael, thanks so much, first of all for your shiny explanation on >>>>> >> the message 08.09 on self-organization taken place in OST meetings, >>>>> >> and we just willing to re-enjoy this, not so much looking for an >>>>> >> explanation, that's it! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'm sure we'll witness this magic soon in Bilbao (jsut 3 weeks!)). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Jean François, my previous experience with WOSonOS has been >>>>> >> always so rewarding, that, feeling a bit sad after two years in >>>>> >> which we had no way to ressemble, I asked around and, after a few >>>>> >> colleagues said "go ahead" in December, we started joyfully with our >>>>> >> small dream. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Now we are happy to see that around 40 people we'll be enjoying 2 OS >>>>> >> meetings in Bilbao soon. We espce that many more will sign up during >>>>> >> next days (if some of you are considering it, please contact us for >>>>> >> whatever we could help you: [email protected]) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 26+27th of September, withe the ample question: 2020+ Complex times: >>>>> >> how are we going ahead in cooperative ways? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 29th+30th of September: how can we refine and expand our OS practice >>>>> >> all over the world? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> JF, I invite you, if having time, to read "Open Space Technology: >>>>> >> the user's guide (Harrison Owen)", and if you are willing, join us >>>>> >> in the practice of preparing the space during the 23th September and >>>>> >> / or 28th. Let us know if we can anyhow make your coming easier! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regarding the Goodhabitz documentary, they'll be coming to WOSonOS >>>>> >> in Bilbao, and we'll thank some of you answering to their >>>>> >> interviews. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Looking forward to meet you soon in Bilbao! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thansk for spreading the heartly invitation! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gentza Eleder >>>>> >> Mundaka/Bilbao >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://guneirekiarenlagunak.weebly.com/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> https://twitter.com/OpenSpace_EH >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Sent with Proton Mail [1] secure email. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>> >> On Thursday, September 8th, 2022 at 16:45, Michael M Pannwitz >>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Jean-Francois, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> yes, experiencing open space in an OST setting is the best way to >>>>> >> get into this experiment which will be lifelong, I guarantee. >>>>> >> In fact, some folks know that open space and the approach can not be >>>>> >> learned or taught but it can be remembered. In other words, we >>>>> >> already know about it. But all kind of circumstances have led to it >>>>> >> being burried deep down. >>>>> >> In so called open space "Trainings" where 97% of the time everything >>>>> >> is entirely selforganizing, lasting 3 to 5 days (I love the 5 day >>>>> >> variety) where the trainers are mostly invisible, its been observed, >>>>> >> that participants could no longer do without open space. >>>>> >> So, Bilbao is also a variety of "training" with the opportunity to >>>>> >> take a deep dive and upon surfacing you will breathe something that >>>>> >> you never experienced before. >>>>> >> For me, it was life changing. And that at the age of 56 with 3 >>>>> >> decades of all kinds of OD behing me and pretty sure that I knew >>>>> >> everything. It was tough work to drop my old habits and in a way it >>>>> >> still is. By the way, that was in 1996 at a "training" with Harrison >>>>> >> Owen and Romy Shovelton in Roffey Park... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> So, get on your motorcycle or start walking or hitchhiking towards >>>>> >> Bilbao and have a great time. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin >>>>> >> mmp >>>>> >> >>>>> >> PS: Dont forget to include yourself in the Open Space World Map >>>>> >> https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion >>>>> >> and add a picture so I can see you when writing corresponding with >>>>> >> you. >>>>> >> At my age I rarely leave my neighborhood, but have a grand time >>>>> >> here... I might leave it once more if the next WOSonOS will be in >>>>> >> Berlin, I hear some folks are planning that for 2023... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Am 08.09.2022 um 14:56 schrieb JF: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hello All, >>>>> >> I have been on this list and be interested in OST for many years. >>>>> >> Yet I have never (until now) taken the opportunity to develop this >>>>> >> interest further and actually participate and be involved with OST >>>>> >> events. >>>>> >> I am currently in a professional transition from being a manager in >>>>> >> a large engineering firm to becoming self employed project manager >>>>> >> with a view to help build collective intelligence in organisations >>>>> >> through innovative organisational structures (e.g. holacracy) and >>>>> >> various practices such as OST. >>>>> >> I would like to learn and experience more and I have been told >>>>> >> before that the best and only way to learn about OST is to >>>>> >> experience it first hand. That makes a lot of sense and I think that >>>>> >> this would be a great eye opener for me as well as a growing >>>>> >> opportunity. Therefore I am contemplating participating in the next >>>>> >> OSonOS in Bilbao (I live in the south of France) but I want to make >>>>> >> sure that this is appropriate for someone who want to get initiated >>>>> >> in OST. >>>>> >> Thanks in advance for your comments and / or advice. >>>>> >> Regads, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Jean-François (JF) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 7:49 PM Michael M Pannwitz >>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Gentza Eleder, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> you might tell them that ost is an approach to expand time and space >>>>> >> for the unfolding of selforganisation. It is not an intention of ost >>>>> >> to change business culture, have better meetings or all the other >>>>> >> things one might find important. >>>>> >> It has been noticed however, that ost events bring about amazing >>>>> >> stuff every time those gatherings are convened and that folks find >>>>> >> that these were the best meetings they ever experienced. How that >>>>> >> happens has never been grasped. And participants are regularily >>>>> >> simply not interested to research this, they just want to get going. >>>>> >> The important observation is that it works. And if it is used >>>>> >> regularily in an organisation those organisations change all by >>>>> >> themselves (see the decade long experiment in the Agency for Youth >>>>> >> in Europe). >>>>> >> Selforganisation has never been grasped but it is the central force >>>>> >> in the unfolding of everything that has happened on this planet for >>>>> >> billions of year. >>>>> >> It has been observed that some very few prerequisites need to be in >>>>> >> place to get the the right conditions for getting this experiment in >>>>> >> selforganisation to unfold: sticky problem, high complexity of the >>>>> >> matter, large diversity of participants, high conflict and high >>>>> >> urgency to act and, not to forget, voluntarty participation. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Everyone attending our event in Bilbao is an expert, even experts in >>>>> >> attendance that are zoologists, psychologists, anthropologists, >>>>> >> medicine men, sociologists, cooks, gardeners, plumbers, architects, >>>>> >> teachers, mothers and very important: children. If you have children >>>>> >> and youngsters at the event among all the others you will find that >>>>> >> an amazing ingredient for the diversity soup. Nobody knows why and >>>>> >> it needs not to be researched, we have seen it. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hope you get a great film that is shown in all cinemas around the >>>>> >> world. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Greetings from Berlin >>>>> >> Love and Peace >>>>> >> mmp >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Am 23.08.2022 um 18:09 schrieb Gentza Eleder: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi friends, how are you? >>>>> >> We are having since July some converations with GoodHabitz >>>>> >> Documentaries [2]. >>>>> >> They are very interested in OST and are planning to come to Bilbao >>>>> >> to film and make some interviews during the 28th World Open Space on >>>>> >> Open Space. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Now, they asked something that I thought would be best to spread >>>>> >> through the OSLIST, as follows: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> .... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a >>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. >>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to >>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business >>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> .... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Would you, please, specially if planning to join as in Bilbao in >>>>> >> September, take some time to answer Marije (you can add us, as cc)? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I've proposed her to join herself the OSLIST to take part directly >>>>> >> in the conversation or open new questions. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Best of all, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Gentza Eleder >>>>> >> >>>>> >> BuM_31 unJobbing >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Mundaka >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (+0034) 638.733.223 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ------- Original Message ------- >>>>> >> Em terça-feira, 23 de agosto de 2022 às 10:10, Marije Kuipers >>>>> >> <[email protected]> escreveu: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Gentza, good morning! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> How are you? Thanks for your email. Great answers! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I forgot to ask, have you been filmed before? And is it online? Just >>>>> >> to get an idea :) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> .... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> For the film we are still looking for anybody who is a >>>>> >> psychologist/anthropologist/sociologist or business culture expert. >>>>> >> Or someone with a lot of knowledge in this field. We would like to >>>>> >> interview such an expert about how you can change the business >>>>> >> culture or the approach in order to have better meetings. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> .... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Do you know if there are more experts who are attending the event? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hope to hear from you. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks for your time and efforts! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Have a good day, >>>>> >> Marije >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > Michael M Pannwitz >>>>> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >>>>> > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > Michael M Pannwitz >>>>> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >>>>> > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Links: >>>>> > ------ >>>>> > [1] https://proton.me/ >>>>> > [2] >>>>> > >>>>> https://www.goodhabitz.com/en-gb/why-goodhabitz/doing-things-differently/goodhabitz-moments/ >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> All is possible together >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> -- >> >> Jo Toepfer, boscop eg <http://www.boscop.org/> >> Boxhagener Str. 119B, 10245 Berlin >> Tel: +49-(0)30-42018000 >> Mob: +49-(0)176-22394083 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >
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