Stathis, an excellent narrative. Thank you John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stathis Papaioannou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:05 AM Subject: RE: Numbers, Machine and Father Ted Peter Jones writes: (> >) (((Preliminaries snipped))) > > That you don't experience HP universes is as much an argument against a physical > > multiverse as it is an argument against a mathematical multiverse. > (StP): (>) > Not "as much". It depends on how constrained they are. > Physical multiverses can be almost as constrained as single universes, or almost as unconstrained as multiverses. > ... > in Platonia. Measure has to emerge naturally and necessarily for them. (((Platonists))) >OK, if you put constraints on a physical multiverse so that it's smaller than "every possible universe". SNIPPED > > (That's the "mathematical* mutiverse of course. A physical mutliverse is an entirely different matter). ========== Here it comes: ========== Suppose God took Platonia, in all its richness, and made it physical. What would expect to experience in the next moment? (a) nothing (b) everything (c) something (a) can't be right. Although in the vast majority of universes in the next moment your head explodes or the laws of physics change such that your brain stops working (sorry), as long as there is at least one copy of you still conscious, you can expect to remain conscious. (b) can't be right. However many copies of you there are, you only experience being one at a time. Even if one of the copies is mind-melded with others, that still counts as an individual with more complex experiences. Moreover, it is doubtful whether an experience of everything simultaneously - every possible thought, including all the incoherent ones - is different to no experience at all, much as a page covered in ink contains no more information than a blank page. Therefore, (c) must be right. You can expect to experience something. What is it that you might experience, if all possibilities are actualised? What will you experience if no measure is defined, or all the possibilities have equal measure? Sure, objectively you could say they are all conscious simultaneously, but if you asked any of them, how do you think they would describe their subjective experience? ((Snipped)) ... Stathis Papaioannou ===================== --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
