Le 14-mars-07, à 08:15, Kim Jones a écrit :

> I believe that the 'ability to conceive of nothing' -  in a Loebian
> machine context might be forbidden under comp (I could be wrong)


The problem with words like "nothing" and "everything" is that they 
have as many meaning than there are theories or philosophical frame.

As example, you cannot represent the quantum vacuum by the empty set. 
Those are completely different and opposite notion of nothingness.
The empty set can be simulated by a simple non universal machine. The 
quantum void is already turing universal.

I am not sure that a notion of nothingness can have some absolute 
meaning. It is rich and interesting, but hardly basic and primitive.

Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/


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