Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Le 01-mars-07, à 00:35, Brent Meeker a écrit :
>> Brent Meeker quoted:
>> "Atheism is a belief system the way "Off" is a TV channel."
>>      --- George Carlin
> Carlin makes the typical confusion between atheism and agnosticism.
> An atheist has indeed a rich belief system:
> 1) he believes that God does not exist (unlike an agnostic who does not 
> believe that God exists: that makes a huge difference)

I disagree.  Those are definitions consistent is usage, but so are

atheist: one who doesn't believe that God (meaning the god of theism) exists.

agnostic: one who believes it is impossible have any knowledge as to whether 
God exists.

Those are also common usages and align more closely with the etymology of the 

> 2) he generally believes in a material or Aristotelian Universe 
> (despite its contradiction with comp, 

What contradiction is that?

>or with QM, or with some 
> physically reproducible facts, and despite any proof or argument beyond 
> the Aristotelian Matter reification.)

To say one shouldn't reifying matter seems like saying one shouldn't 
anthropomorphize people.  Things made of matter, tables and chairs, exist 
paradigmatically.  That there may be some deeper, more fundamental explanation 
of tables and chairs hardly makes them go away.

Brent Meeker 

> Bruno
> > 

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