I read the Wikipedia of "The prestige" (too lazy to watch the movie ;-) 
and, yes, it's classical comp stuff *grin*

What I would like to recommend to everybody on the list is Greg Egan's book

Permutation City

I can recommend everything by Egan - hard, no nonsense, mathematically 
informed SciFi (his page is here:


he has good applets on his page also, check them out)

In Permutation City, he explores personality duplication, platonic 
computation, "dust theory" of consciousness etc - an excellent, 
breathtaking book. Will transform your views, even if you have been 
thinking about these things for a long time.


Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Le 16-avr.-08, à 15:13, nichomachus (Steve) a écrit :
>> The Prestige, with Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, Michael Caine, Andy
>> Serkis.... and David Bowie as Nikola Tesla... I also highly recommend
>> this very entertaining movie that I saw last week.
>> Unfortunately, Bruno, I don't see the connection between this film and
>> the computationalist hypothesis.
> Hmmm.... I don't want to spoil the movie either ... Have you study the 
> Universal Dovetailer Argument, or just the third key step?
> Note that from a purely strict logical point of view you don't need 
> comp but a weakening of it. But the comp hyp makes something (in the 
> movie) possible and even "real", and even already "real" in a sense 
> made explicit in the movie.
> Perhaps I will say more later, when more people (of the list) will have 
> seen the movie.
> Bruno
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
> > 

Günther Greindl
Department of Philosophy of Science
University of Vienna

Blog: http://dao.complexitystudies.org/
Site: http://www.complexitystudies.org

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