Stathis wrote:>Yes, previous material selves are a fact while destructive
teleportation is not. But I don't see why you would dismiss the validity of
a philosophical point on that basis....<
and why do you think that those material 'facts' are not your
I dismiss - not the 'validity', of 'a' philosophical point', but to deal
with the topic - because I prefer to stay 'sane' (what I pretend to be a
'fact' in my own terms).
My point was that nobody remembers (knows about) teleportationally previous
state(s) so why should we speculate about the 'coming' ones? I asked "what
is your (or anybody else's) reason to believe that THIS WORLD we see now and
here is indeed the FIRST existence we are in?
(where did we die to come here? )
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 2008/10/24 John Mikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > JM:
> > two contrasting reflections:
> > 1. I do need the sci-fi for "material" that changes. Matter is a figment
> > conventional science upon the (mis)understood so called observations we
> > assign to 'the world' and our partial information composes the
> > 'mini'solipsism (Colin H) we carry about 'reality' - each of us in his
> > variation.
> Whatever matter is or isn't, you know what I'm referring to when I use
> the term. I can make a distinction between a "real" pen on my desk and
> an "imaginary" pen on my desk, even if it turns out that the "real"
> one is part of a hallucination I have been experiencing since birth.
> The "imaginary" pen would then in some sense be *more* imaginary than
> the "real" pen.
> > 2. We do know indeed of the 'previous material self' series we live
> > through, don't know about the (destructive?) teleported precursors. So my
> > questions stand.
> Yes, previous material selves are a fact while destructive
> teleportation is not. But I don't see why you would dismiss the
> validity of a philosophical point on that basis.
> Stathis Papaioannou
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