On 12 Dec 2008, at 23:38, ronaldheld wrote:
> > Bruno: > I am uncertain that this was answered. > You are starting with mathematics, Not really. I am starting with the "real world". I assume you have a brain disease and that your doctor proposed to you an artificial digital, supposedly material (at this stage)) brain. And I show (by a long reasoning which asks for some effort of course) the logical consequences of the assumption that you survive (in the usual Hospital sense of perfect surviving a medical operation) with it. > and going to some Multiversal > computation program? If there is no physical universe, what does the > computer run on? With no energy, how are your thoughts being > generated? It is the point of all the reasoning to explain this. To help you to be patient I can say this (but justify it only later): the physical universe as we observe it will emerge from consciousness, which emerges from the computations, which emerge from the relation which exists among the natural numbers. The ontological theory of everything is just elementary arithmetic. The rest, including time space energy, will be explained as first person view that numbers develop relatively to each other. Modestly, I show only it has to be so, once we assume comp. And I show a path for how to proceed, but there could be other path, as some suggest in the list. Once the path is completed we can compare the comp-physics with the empirical world, and , well, perhaps abandon comp if comp is contradictory with the facts. Bruno PS Note that quantum computation does not need energy to proceed, and this is actually a bit mysterious with respect to the comp hypothesis. READ and WRITE needs energy. I will not explain because this could generate confusion. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
