John,
> Who is self-referencing, or even acknowledging self-reference? Gödel and All. It is a major discovery of the 20th century: a completely clear notion of third person self-reference. A first person self-reference theory follows naturally, accepting Theaetetus' definition of knowledge. The first person self, like the big one, has really no name. No identity card, nor even a body. Paradoxes and even shit happens when we name them. Each of the 8 hypostases (or of the 16, ...) can be seen as a notion of self-reference, but acting on different facet of the arithmetical reality. There are nameable selves and unnameable one, and they obey to different logics. More later. I wish you the best, Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

