Note also that, by being universal machine, our look-up table are infinite.
Bruno Le 18-mai-09, à 03:11, Kelly Harmon a écrit : > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I don't have a problem with the idea that a giant lookup table is >> just a >> sort of "zombie", since after all the way you'd create a lookup table >> for a >> given algorithmic mind would be to run a huge series of actual >> simulations >> of that mind with all possible inputs, creating a huge archive of >> "recordings" so that later if anyone supplies the lookup table with a >> given >> input, the table just looks up the recording of the occasion in which >> the >> original simulated mind was supplied with that exact input in the >> past, and >> plays it back. Why should merely replaying a recording of something >> that >> happened to a simulated observer in the past contribute to the >> measure of >> that observer-moment? I don't believe that playing a videotape of me >> being >> happy or sad in the past will increase the measure of happy or sad >> observer-moments involving me, after all. And Olympia seems to be >> somewhat >> similar to a lookup table in that the only way to construct "her" >> would be >> to have already run the regular Turing machine program that she is >> supposed >> to emulate, so that you know in advance the order that the Turing >> machine's >> read/write head visits different cells, and then you can rearrange the >> positions of those cells so Olympia will visit them in the correct >> order >> just by going from one cell to the next in line over and over again. >> > > What if you used a lookup table for only a single neuron in a computer > simulation of a brain? So actual calculations for the rest of the > brain's neurons are performed, but this single neuron just does > lookups into a table of pre-calculated outputs. Would consciousness > still be produced in this case? > > What if you then re-ran the simulation with 10 neurons doing lookups, > but calculations still being executed for the rest of the simulated > brain? Still consciousness is produced? > > What if 10% of the neurons are implemented using lookup tables? 50%? > 90%? How about all except 1 neuron is implemented via lookup tables, > but that 1 neuron's outputs are still calculated from inputs? > > At what point does the simulation become a zombie? > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---