Kelly wrote:
> On May 23, 12:54 pm, Brent Meeker <> wrote:
>> Either of these ideas is definite
>> enough that they could actually be implemented (in contrast to many
>> philosophical ideas about consciousness).
> Once you had implemented the ideas, how would you then know whether
> consciousness experience had actually been produced, as opposed to the
> mere appearance of it?
> If you don't have a way of definitively detecting the hoped for result
> of consciousness, then how exactly does being "implementable" really
> help?  You run your test...and then what?

It's no different than any theory (including yours).  You draw some 
conclusions about what should happen if it's correct, you try it and you 
see if your predictions work out.  If I program/build my robot a certain 
way will it seem as conscious as a dog or a chimpanzee or a human?  Can 
I adjust my design to match any of those?  Can I change my brain in a 
certain way and change my experienced consciousness in a predictable 
way.   If so, I place some credence in my theory of consciousness.  If 
not - it's back to the drawing board.  Many things are not observed 
directly.  No theory is certain; it may be true but we can never be 
certain it's true.


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