On Feb 1, 12:41 am, David Shipman <zzship...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 4:13 pm, 1Z <peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 25, 9:04 am, "Stephen Paul King" <stephe...@charter.net> wrote:
> > > Dear Bruno and Friends,
> >> While we are considering the idea of “causal efficacy”
> >> here and not hidden variable theories, the fact that it
> >> has been experimentally verified that Nature violates
> >> the principle Locality. Therefore the assumption of
> >> local efficacy that Mauldin is using for the supervenience
> >> thesis is not realistic and thus presents a flaw in his
> >> argument.
> > Local supervenience doesn't have to be argued from
> > fundamental physics. It can be argued from neurology.
> > Mental states arent affected by what goes on outside
> > the head unless information is conveyed by the sense
> This isn't true, is it?
> So we have two particles (A and B) that are entangled.
> Entanglement is never destroyed, it is only obscured by subsequent
> interactions with the environment.
> Particle A goes zooming off into outer space.
> 10 years later, Particle B becomes incorporated into my brain.
> The next day, an alien scientist measures the entangled property on
> Particle A.
> This will have an immediate non-local effect on Particle B won't it?

Particle B was "observed" (einselected) by your brain first, so the
"action" is on
particle A

> And since B's state has been altered, and it is part of my brain, then
> my brain state has been altered as well, hasn't it?
> Maybe only a tiny amount, obscured by the many environmental
> interactions that the two particles have been subjected to since the
> initial entanglement, but in a way that is real and at least
> conceivably significant.
> And if that is true, then to the extent that mental states supervene
> on brain states, my mental state would also have been altered by non-
> local effects.
> Or is that wrong?
> Regards,
> David

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