I expect you are not alone in struggling with the Natural Computation
(NC) vs Artificial Computation (AC) idea. The difference is in the
paper and should be non-existent of COMP is true. The paper then shows a
place where it can't be true hence AC and NC are different .ie. the
natural world is not computation of the Turing-machine kind( at least to
the extent needed to construct a scientist, which includes the need to
create a liar).
It's all quite convoluted, but nevertheless sufficient to help an
engineer like me make a design choice... which I have done.
I hope over time these ideas will not grate on the mind quite so much.
Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Thanks for the paper. I have just browsed it. Two small notes.
I like [Turing et al., 2008]. It seems that he has passed his test
I find term Natural Computation (NC) a bit confusing. I guess that I
understand what you means but the term Computation sounds ambiguously,
because then it is completely unclear what it means in such a context.
On 07.06.2011 09:42 Colin Hales said the following:
Hales, C. G. 'On the Status of Computationalism as a Law of Nature',
International Journal of Machine Consciousness vol. 3, no. 1, 2011.
The paper has finally been published. Phew what an epic!
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