if you really believe in reality.... you should commit suicide... if a reality remains.... there is reality....
if no reality remains... well then all is base stupidity. On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 09 Jul 2011, at 06:06, meekerdb wrote: > > On 7/8/2011 8:57 PM, B Soroud wrote: >> >>> I'm saying that perhaps the philosophic foundations and presupps of >>> physics are erroneous and something alternative is needed... >>> >>> I am saying we need to ground physics in an idealist metaphysics.... >>> That's where my thoughts currently at. >>> >>> >> That's what a lot of philosophers have said. I say, "Have at it!" Let me >> know what you come up with. >> > > You talk like if it was a matter of choice. But to have anything different > from idealism you have to speculate on things that nobody has ever seen, and > which escapes the computable. Idealism is not a belief in ideas, it is a > skepticism in matter. Comp explains why we have to be skeptic on matter. > Materialism will die like vitalism. It is just a big 'animal' extrapolation > which appears to be inconsistent. Science is born from a departure of the > idea that what we see is what is real. Aristotle just bring that idea, a > very popular idea indeed, back. > > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~**marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscribe@ > **googlegroups.com <everything-list%[email protected]>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

