On 09 Jul 2011, at 06:06, meekerdb wrote:

On 7/8/2011 8:57 PM, B Soroud wrote:
I'm saying that perhaps the philosophic foundations and presupps of
physics are erroneous and something alternative is needed...

I am saying we need to ground physics in an idealist metaphysics....
That's where my thoughts currently at.

That's what a lot of philosophers have said. I say, "Have at it!" Let me know what you come up with.

You talk like if it was a matter of choice. But to have anything different from idealism you have to speculate on things that nobody has ever seen, and which escapes the computable. Idealism is not a belief in ideas, it is a skepticism in matter. Comp explains why we have to be skeptic on matter. Materialism will die like vitalism. It is just a big 'animal' extrapolation which appears to be inconsistent. Science is born from a departure of the idea that what we see is what is real. Aristotle just bring that idea, a very popular idea indeed, back.



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