My $.02. I am reminded of the argument in Matrix Philosophy that if we cannot argue that our experiences are *not* simulations then we might as well bet that they are. While I have found that there are upper bounds on computational based content via logical arguments such as David Deutsch'sCANTGOTO <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabric_of_Reality> and Carlton Caves <http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0304083>' research on computational resources, it seems to me that we have sufficient evidence to argue that if it is possible for a being to have 1p associated with it, then we might as well bet that they do. So I am betting that zombies do not exist. One simply cannot remain an agnostic on this issue.



On 1/16/2012 1:27 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com <mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    "  I think that I have a workable and useful notion of zombie."
    [...]  Zombie describes something which seems like it could be
    conscious from the outside (ie to a human observer) but actually
    is not.

As I have absolutely no way of directly determining if a zombie is actually conscious or "actually is not" then despite your claim your notion is neither workable or useful.

 John K Clark

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