On Feb 2, 4:33 pm, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Do you have any examples of an intelligent organism which evolved without > > emotion? > > Intelligence is not possible without emotion,
That's what I'm saying. Are you suddenly switching to my argument? > but emotion is possible > without intelligence. Of course. > And I was surprised you asked me for a example of a > emotional organism with or without intelligence, how in the world could I > do that? You refuse to accept behavior as evidence for emotion or even for > intelligence, so I can't tell if anyone or anything is emotional or > intelligent in the entire universe except for me. But you can tell if something seems like it is. > > > > The whole idea of evolution 'figuring out' anything is not consistent > > with our understanding of natural selection. > > It's a figure of speech. > > > > Natural selection is not teleological. > > A keen grasp of the obvious. Sorry, I can't tell the difference here if you are using it as a figure of speech or positing agency to evolution. Even using that as a figure of speech suggests an exaggeration of the role of evolution in the universe. > > > The subject was things that influenced my theory. Light, electricity, and > > electromagnetism are significant influences. > > Electromagnetism significantly influences everything as do the other 3 > fundamental physical forces. Tell me something new. If I yell out 'Tesla' and then get hit by lightning, is that not associated strongly enough for you to be noticed? > > > > What do you think understanding is actually supposed to lead to? > > Your ideas lead to navel gazing not understanding. And your ideas lead to...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

