On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:25:01PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > On 14.03.2012 23:34 Russell Standish said the following: > >On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 07:51:13PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > >> > >>Then the thermodynamic entropy is subjective. Try to convince in > >>this engineers who develop engines, or chemists who compute > >>equilibria, and see what happens. > > > >I take Denbigh& Denbigh's position that entropy is not subjective, but > >rather fixed by convention. Conventions can be entirely > >objective. This should assuage those engineers you speak of. > > > > > > Could you please explain a bit more what you mean? What does it mean > to fix something by convention? > > Evgenii >
We take certain macro variables as thermodynamic state variables, rather than others. A Laplace daemon would not agree with that. Its better explained in Denbigh & Denbigh, but Brent Meeker has also been making the same point. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

