On 10 June 2012 17:26, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > I am not sure I understand your problem with that simultaneity. The > arithmetical relations are out of time. It would not make sense to say that > they are simultaneously true, because this refer to some "time", and can > only be used as a metaphor.
I agree with almost everything you say. I would say also that the moments of experience, considered as a class, are themselves out of time. What it takes to "create (experiential) time" - the notorious "illusion" - is whatever is held to be responsible for the irreducible mutual-exclusivity of such moments, from the perspective of the (universal) knower. Hoyle does us the service of making this mutual-exclusivity explicit by invoking his "light beam" to illuminate the pigeon holes at hazard; those who conclude that this function is redundant, and that the structure of pigeon holes itself somehow does the work of "creating personal history", owe us an alternative explanation of the role of Hoyle's beam. I understand, of course, that these are just ways of thinking about a state of affairs that is ultimately not finitely conceivable, but all the same, I think there is something that cries out for explanation here and Hoyle is one of the few to have explicitly attempted to address it. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.