Stephen, my stance as well on (even controversial) argumentation. HOWEVER (isn't one everywhere?) the 'advancement' one achieves by certain explanations might 'color' one's own ideas into shades unwanted. If you read a well formulated argument it inevitably sticks in your mind and later is hard to separate. A reason why most religious people cannot accept logical (scientific) refutation and fall back into old meme superstition.
I appreciate Roger's knowledgeability in ancient (mostly idealistic) theories but his fundamental color is biblical FAITH. I know him from another (nonreligious) list, where I asked the moderator to curtail the amount of those overwhelmingly religious postings - and he did. Roger is still on, but hiding some of his true colors (mostly). (A reason why I refrained from responding to his posts. I want to keep friendly to that other list, too.) You are absolutely right about the topical invigorating by the deluge of posts - add to it that Roger starts from a one-sided position only. Most discussions on the Everything list are also one-sided, but as in the past - from ANOTHER side. (Bruno is close to faithfulness, not a formal religion though, but his mind-body is close to a 'soul' belief.) I used to be a Catholic, then reincarnationalistic (Ouija-board fan), now I can't include into my ongoing worldview *(agnosticism, based on the 'infinite complexity', - to us unknowable in toto)* WHAT may remain after death of our (human? with trillion microbial biomes) complexity that is destroyed - reshaped *AS a memory of ourselves*. Which part would 'remember' and 'respond' to a destroyed complexity (us) after "we are gone"? - Surviving parts MAY connect to different complexities and 'live'(?) as such. It is a pity that Adam and Eve are not 'real'. And do not forget my distinction for the physical world (as we pretend to know it): *a figment of yesterday's stance*. Leibnitz etc.? I respect those oldies of those (their) times. Best to you John On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote: > On 8/21/2012 11:02 AM, John Mikes wrote: > > Dear Roger, > > (re: Brent's post below) Brent wrote it superbly. You, with your immense > educational thesaurus (lit, thinking, writing skills etc.) 'occupied' this > list now for some weeks in the controversy by a (I wish I had a better > distinction) religious(?) faith-based mindset vs. the well established and > decades-long working ensemble of the list - on other grounds. > > The participants on this list are strong minds and well established, you > have little chance to convert them - although some of us linger into > close-to-religious belief systems, which may be a definitional problem > (e.g. Bruno's theology and god, etc.). > You could be more accepted and happier on another list where the majority > is closer to your own belief system. YET: > Maybe you do seek controversy? I could understand that, but your posting > fervor is taking over our list. Have mercy! > Please, consider this a friendly remark. > John Mikes > > > Dear John, > > I think that is is sometimes a good thing to have use shaken out of > our doldrums! I like Roger's contributions! They have already helped be > make some great advances in my own work. ;-) > > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:00 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 8/20/2012 5:16 AM, Roger wrote: >> >> Hi Bruno and Stephen >> >> I want to inform you that you are wrong in all of your writings. >> >> Please understand how very incorrect you are about everything you >> post! Why are you so wrong. >> >> Roger >> >> >> I *(am?)* glad Roger cleared that up. :-) >> >> Brent >> "Shut up he explained." >> --- Ring Lardner >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > -- > Onward! > > Stephen > > "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." > ~ Francis Bacon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
