Hi Stephen P. King 

No problem. 


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Hi Roger,

    Indeed! This corresponds to non-distributive logical lattices.But we still 
need more details. The best attempt that i have seen on deriving extension was 
Roger Penrose' spin network idea.

On 8/23/2012 8:04 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King 

Some entities (like my mouse) are extended in space, others (like what I am 
thinking) are not.
It isn't either/or, it''s both/and.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/23/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Dear Roger, 

    A lot of people have a very hard time comprehending abstract ideas, they 
are stuck thinking of them as physical things. A small minority of people are 
stuck thinking of concepts as purely mental. It is necessary to consider both 
of these points of view and be able to understand the difference between them. 
The best analogy of the relation between them is the inside and outside views 
of a volume filled with hollow spheres.Waht happens if the spheres are actually 
Klein Bottles?

On 8/22/2012 9:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Richard Ruquist 

I'm getting tired of trying to explain this to you. You have to do more 
thinking.

Monads have no extension. And they have no location nor time. So they are merely
theoretical, extensionless, outside of spacetime. You have to have extension to 
physically exist. 


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Roger, 


Space is not empty. It is full of monads at 10^90/cc.
These are the building blocks of space in integration-information theory.
Richard


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Richard Ruquist 
 
You need to study the monadology. And the history of modern physics.
 
Space does not physically exist for L (as for us) because it is empty, as the 
Milligan-whatshisname 
experiment proved a century ago. The notion of an ether is a fantasy. It 
doesn't exist.
Photons just go from A to B through a quantum or mathematical wavefield, not an 
actual one.
 
 
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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Roger, " monads are by definition nonlocal " does not mean that " space does 
not exist". Your logic is faulty. 
Richard 



On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi benjayk 
In monadic theory,?ince space does not exist, monads are by definition 
nonlocal, thus all minds in a sense are one
and can commune with one another as well as with God (the mind behind the 
supreme monad). 
The clarity of intercommunication will of course depend, of course, on the 
sensitivity of the monads, their intelligence,
and how "near" (resonant) their partners are, as well as other factors?uch as 
whether or not its
a clear?onadic weather day.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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meekerdb wrote:
> 
> "This sentence cannot be confirmed to be true by a human being."
> 
> The Computer
> 

He might be right in saying that (See my response to Saibal).
But it can't confirm it as well (how could it, since we as humans can't
confirm it and what he knows about us derives from what we program into
it?). So still, it is less capable than a human.
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Onward!

Stephen

"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." 
~ Francis Bacon

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