On Monday, October 1, 2012 1:36:24 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Craig Weinberg
> >> I don't doubt that initial experiments would not yield ideal results.
> >> Neural prostheses would initially be used for people with
> >> disabilities. Cochlear implants are better than being deaf, but not as
> >> good as normal hearing. But technology keeps getting better while the
> >> human body stays more or less static, so at some point technology will
> >> match and then exceed it. At the very least, there is no theoretical
> >> reason why it should not.
> > I'm all for neural mods and implants. Augmenting and repairing brain =
> > great, replacing the brain = theoretically viable only in theories
> rooted in
> > blind physicalism, in which consciousness is inconceivable to begin
> You're suggesting that even if one implant works as well as the
> original, multiple implants would not. Is there a critical replacement
> limit, 20% you feel normal but 21% you don't? How have you arrived at
> this insight?
If you have one brain tumor, you may still function. With multiple tumors,
you might not fare as well. Tumors function fine on some levels (they are
living cells successfully dividing) but not on others (they fail to stop
dividing, perhaps because there is a diminished identification with the
sense of the organ as a whole).
Because we are 100% ignorant of any objective ontology of consciousness,
there is no reason to assume that an implant can possibly function well
enough to act as a replacement on all levels, unless possibly if the
implant was made of one's own stem cells (probably the best avenue to
PS Someone posted a good AI related quote today that sort of applies:
"I think the point at which a computer program can be considered
the point at which — given an error — you, as the programmer, can say *it*made
If an implanted device doesn't make mistakes, it isn't human intelligence.
If it does make mistakes, it has to make the kinds of mistakes that humans
can tolerate...the mistakes have to be sourced in the same personal agendas
of living beings.
> Stathis Papaioannou
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