Fading qualia is the only argument of Chalmers' that I disagree with. It's a natural mistake to make, but I think he goes wrong by assuming a priori that consciousness is functional, i.e. that personal consciousness is an assembly of sub-personal parts which can be isolated and reproduced based on exterior behavior. I don't assume that at all. I suspect the opposite case, that in fact any level of personal consciousness - be it sub-personal-reflex, personal-intentional, or super-signifying-synchronistic cannot be modeled by the impersonal views from third person perspectives. The impersonal (micro, meso, macrocosm) is based on public extension, space, and quantifiable lengths, while the personal is based on private intention, time, and qualitative oscillation. Each layer of the personal relates to all of the impersonal layers in a different way, so that you can't necessarily replace a person with a sculpture and expect there to still be a person there - even if the sculpture seems extremely convincing to us from the outside appearance. My prediction is that rather than fading qualia, we would simply see increasing pathology, psychosis, dementia, coma, and death. Craig > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/KNfh9FFifccJ. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.