On Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:42:40 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
> > you can see from the differences between conjoined twins, who have the 
>> same nature and nurture, the same environment, that they are not the same 
>> people 
> That is true they are not the same people, and just like EVERYTHING else 
> they are not the same people for a reason or they are not the same people 
> for no reason.

It isn't an either / or proposition.  The question is whose reasons are 
they? Where does reason itself originate? From unconscious disembodied 
metaphysical 'laws' which accidentally generate meaningless epiphenomenal 
'experiences', or from ordinary concretely real physical private 
experiences which generate sequences intentionally as well as respond to 
unintentionally generated public con-sequences. 


>   John K Clark

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