On 07 Nov 2012, at 13:48, Stephen P. King wrote:

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On 11/5/2012 1:49 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:[SPK] You are considering only one entity.This is incorrect. For example the first person plural is definedin term of duplication of populations of machines sharinguniversal numbers/computations.Dear Bruno,I would like to restrict my discussions to just a few questionsabout the comp hypothesis. I do not understand how the AUDA explainsthe "duplication of populations of machines sharing universalnumbers/computations". Could you elaborate on this? I askedpreviously if there exists an index set or some other way toidentify differences between populations. You didn't seem to knowwhat an index set is...

`Then read the post more cautiously, please, and quote that part. My`

`specialization is recursion theory, and I was pointing that your use`

`of "index set" was irrelevant, and did not apply to the 1p.`

My confusion is that I see only a single equivalence class ofmachines allowed by Tennenbaum's theorem.

`When I ask you to explain what is the role of Tennenbaum here, you`

`escape in even more 1004 fallacies.`

`Explain it informally so that everyone can get the idea, if there is`

`one. Avoid any links. Take the time to explain what is a non standard`

`model, and why "2+2=4" is universally true, that is true in both`

`standard and non standrad model. Then explains what role you see in`

`those non standard model, and why they would change something in the`

`comp results, which I have proved in arithmetic, and so are valid also`

`for the non standard models.`

Where am I going wrong?

`You are already in the "not even wrong" territory. You make statements`

`which are too much unclear, and this is worsened by your constant`

`appeal to technical jargons.`

My problems center around your ideas about 3p-truth!

`This, on the contrary is clear but weird, as you refer all the time to`

`papers using that 3p truth notions. But then for comp, you seem to use`

`philosophy to resist following a reasoning.`

`In the comp theory the 3p truth is the truth of the arithmetical`

`sentences. You should have develop the intuition of it in high school.`

`It is the simpler known 3p realm. In QM, an example of 3p would be`

`Everett universal wave function. Most of science is based on 3p`

`mathematical truth, simple like in economy and classical physics, and`

`more sophisticated in quantum mechanics and theoretical physics.`

`Of course I cannot explain comp, nor QM, nor GR, nor anything in`

`science to someone who stops at "2+2=4", by doing what I feel to be`

`only premature philosophical resistance.`

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