On Friday, November 23, 2012 4:23:49 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Bruno Marchal > > 1) I suspect that when you refer to imagination, it is the > same as what I call intuition. They're related, but I don't > think they're exactly the same. I see intuition as coming > from Platonia and spreading wider than the individual to > all possible solutions. In essence, you do not imagine these > solutions, they become evident to you. >
Imagination and intuition are different. Imagine a blue chair. Works right? Have an intuition that someone is going to ring your doorbell. Didn't work, did it? You can't make yourself have an intuition, intuition comes to you unbidden from beyond your conscious attention. Imagination produces results in the form of images and other ideal gestalts, both voluntarily and involuntarily, just as we can choose to control our breathing to some extent or allow it to happen outside of our conscious attention. > 2) Maybe I misundertand you, but I especially don't see how the machine, > has any advantage over the person with regard to 1p. As I see it, > 1p is a blind spot, machine or person. Godel holds for both a > person and a machine. > > 1p is only a blind spot from a 3p perspective. Everything that has every been experienced is only 1p as far as we know. This is actually one of the main points where my model improves the conventional understanding. Neither 1p nor 3p can be proved against the other. The more relevant dichotomy is between spatially extended public exterior sense and temporally intended private interior sense. Both are really 1p, but the former faces a 3p which may or may not be primitively 'real'. Craig > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/ndHHgRGYXZ0J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
