Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, amoebas and T-cells. Anything that has life must have intelligence and awareness, although it might be of limited extent. Without life, it couldn't animate. Without awareness and inteligence to understand that perception, it would not know where to go or what to do. [Roger Clough], [[email protected]] 12/15/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-14, 20:25:03 Subject: Re: Moral evaluations of harm are instant and emotional,brain study shows On Friday, December 14, 2012 8:12:24 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> You have just presented an argument for why consciousness is a necessary >> side-effect of intelligent behaviour. If it were not so, then there would >> have been no reason for consciousness to have evolved. > > > Consciousness evolved from awareness, not intelligence. Awareness did not > evolve. Evolution is a feature of experience, which is the consequence of > awareness. Intelligent behavior is more or less meaningless. It's a > outsider's judgment on some observed activity where he projects his own > standards of sense and motive onto some context he may or may not know > something about. Intelligence is prejudice really. So that there can be no confusion, what I mean by "intelligent behaviour" is behaviour such as looking for food or avoiding predators. So amoebas then. Or T-cells. I take "consciousness" and "awareness" as synonymous. You can, but I separate them to make the more important distinction. Consciousness is multiple sets of awareness, by my meaning. When an animal looks for food I assume that it is aware. The question is, why did animals not evolve to do this without awareness, since it would have the same effect of propagating their genes either way? An answer is that awareness necessarily occurs when the type of behaviour that would lead us to suspect awareness occurs. So ribosomes then? Chlorophyll? They appear aware to me. Atoms, electrons.. They respond to collisions, they organize when they have the opportunity. I suspect awareness in every type of behavior. Craig -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/M4R-nAMLlZoJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
