Hi Richard Ruquist 

That's the usual response, but
why does information have to be 
associated with extended objects ?

One could store such information mentally.


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/19/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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The holographic information capacity of the universe is 10^120,
known as the Lloyd limit.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi meekerdb and Stephen,
>
> If information is stored in quantum form,
> I can't see why the number of particles
> in the universe can be a limiting fsactor.
> Also there are ways of storing information
> holographically, so size gets a bit ambiguous.
>
>
>
> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
> 12/19/2012
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
>
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> Time: 2012-12-18, 16:44:29
> Subject: Re: the only truth we can understand is a man-made object
>
> On 12/18/2012 1:12 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
>
> We have many entities that are available to agree that 2+2=4 (for all
> sizes of 2 and 4 that we can find), 2^90 entities at least! Every particle
> that exist in our universe that can hold a bit of data and all possible
> combinations of them that agree on some "laws of physics".
>
>
> I've only been able to communicate with a few of what I call 'human beings'.
> All those particle are inferences that I and the other 'human beings' have
> put in our model of the world to explain the 'facts' on which we have
> intersubjectively agreed. In our model, the particles don't have opinions.
> In fact the whole idea of particle is something which has very few
> properties and hence is completely understandable (wouldn't be much point in
> making a theory out of pieces you don't understand).
>
> Brent
>
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