On 1/6/2013 6:56 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
A greath truth. Every human knowledge has also social consequiences.
When I say "A". I don´t only say "A is true". I say also that because
A is true and you must accept it because a set of my socially
reputated fellows of me did something to affirm it, you must believe
it, and, more important, I deserve a superior status than you, the
As a consequence of this fact o human nature (which has a root in
natural selection). every corpus of accepted knowledge is associated
from the beginning to a chiurch of guardians of ortodoxy. No matter
the intentions or the objectivity or the asepsy of the methods of the
founders. There is a power to keep, much to gain and loose, and as
time goes on, real truth becomes a secondary question. The creatie,
syncere founders are substituted by media polemizers and mediocre
defenders of the status quio.
This power-truth tension in science was biased heavily towards the
former when State nationalized science at the end of the XIX century,
because science was standardized and homogeneized to the minimum
common denominator, chopping any heterodoxy, destroying free enquiry
which was vital for the advancement. Now peer reviews are in many
sofft disciplines, filters of ortodoxy, not quality controls.
As the philosopher of science Feyerabend said, It is necessary a
separation of State and science as much as was necessary a separartion
of State and church: Because a state with a unique church of science
is a danger for freedom, and because a science dominated by the state
is a danger for any science.
The standardization of science towards materiamism was a logical
consequence of the a philosophical stance of protestantism: the
Nominalism, that rejected the greek philosophical legacy and separated
dratically the revelated knowledge of the Bible form the knowledge of
the things of the world without the bridge of greek philosophy.
Mind-soul and matter became two separate realms. Common sense or the
Nous were not a matter of science and reason, like in the greek
philosophy (what is reasonable included what makes common sense, just
like it is now in common parlancy), but a matter of the individual
spirit under the firm umbrela of the biblical revelation. The problem
is that this umbrela progressively dissapeared, and with it, common
sense. That gave a nihilistic relativism as a consequience. With the
exception of USA, where common sense is still supported by the faith.
The other cause were the wars of religion among christian
denominations, that endend up in a agreement of separation between
church and state, where any conflictive view was relegated to religion
as faith, and only the minimum common denominator was admitted as a
foundation for politics, This MCD was a form of political religion.
This political religion was teist at the beginning (As is not in USA)
laater deist and now is materialist, following a path of progressive
reduction to accomodate the progressive secularization (which indeed
was a logical consequence of the nominalism and the proliferation of
faiths that the reform gave birth).
In later stages, the political religion has dropped the country
history, and even reversed it, and, following its inexorable logic,
try to destroy national identity of each individual european country,
in the effort to accomodate the incoming inmigration worldviews. This
is in part, no matter how shockig is, the logical evolution of the
agreement that ended the religious wars of the XVI century.
In the teistic and deistic stages the State made use of the
transcendence in one form or another for his legitimacy, since the
divine has a plan, and people belive in the divine, the legitimacy of
the state, in the hearths fo the people, becomes real when the
nation-state is inserted in this divine plan.
When, to accomodate the materialistic sects, marxists among them, the
state took over Science to legitimate itself, because the State no
longer had the transcendence as an option to suppor his legitimacy.
the legitimacy of the state was supported by a materialistic sciece,
subsidized, controlled and depurated from any heterodoxy.
So there is the current science, an image of the state political
religion, Multicultural, relativistic and materialist.
2013/1/4 Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net
On 1/4/2013 9:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
....very few scientists....
Sheldrake has done many successful experiments to empirically prove what he
The results are in his books. Some have been published in New Scientist.
"*A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its
opponents and making them see thelight
<http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Light>, but rather because its
opponents eventuallydie <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Death>, and
a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." Max Planck.*
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