On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Roger,
>
> Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to.
>
> Think of the number infinities in terms of a
> static MWI deterministic Block Universe BU.
>
> The number infinities exist in the monad relationships
> at various levels and places in monad space, the Mind space of the BU
> One could speak of a static density of monad infinities in Mind space.
>
> "A". Since it's mathematically true that matter evolves from these infinities,
> The conjecture is that analog quantum waves and fields
> are variations in the density of the infinities
> of the monad number relationships.
>
> "B". Many strong infinities may occupy a very small region of Mind space.
> The conjecture is that they may become discrete particles
> including physical particles, ie., the Mind space is both analog and digital.
>
> Such strong infinities may also have the property of 1- dimensional flow.
> Then the points of strong infinity in Mind space may couple to the flow.
> resulting in a geometry suggestive of Indra's Net of Pearls


and such points and lines suggest string theory.


>
> The collapse problem is to get from A to B.
> "A" happens in the analog Mind space
> where the number infinities are continuous.
>
> Since the monads in the Mind space are a BEC
> where thoughts happen instantly for lack of friction,
> we can imagine that the infinities could collapse instantly.
>
> But mathematically it is necessary for all relevant infinities,
> except those at the point of interaction,
> to be normalized or cancelled.
>
> Feynman metaphorically first quantized the monad number infinities.
> That is, he allowed all the monad wave function infinities
> to collapse to every possible quantum particle
> that could be created by the interaction.
> Apparently the Mind has the same ability.
>
> He then cancelled all of these collapsed quantum particles but one
> by allowing their anti-particles to come back from the future.
> So only one particle becomes physical.
>
> (If Feynman can renormalize QED, the Quantum Mind certainly can)
>
> Because in a Block Universe there is no future.
> There is no time or consciousness.
> nothing is happening.
>
> Or equivalently we can think of a Quasi-Block Universe QBU,
> where everything happens instantly in a 1p perspective.
> There is still no time or consciousness.
>
> Time is created when "conscious free will" choices
> force the BU to recalculate like your auto GPS.
>
> The hard problem is knowing
> where "conscious free will" comes from.
>
> It could come from Godelian incompleteness
> or it could come from biological complexity
> exceeding the universal calculational capacity,
>
> But in the end the magic of consciousness
> requires a 1p leap of faith.
>
>
> NB: if MWI is true all the cancelled quantum particles
> continue to create measure as if they were never cancelled,

So one or the other is true
>
>
> yanniru
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Richard Ruquist
>>
>> Sounds a little fantastic to me, but what do I know ?
>>
>>
>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
>> 1/10/2013
>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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>> Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruno,
>>>>
>>>> Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment,
>>>> space itself does not exist (is nonphysical).
>>>
>>>
>>> Space-time remains physical, here.
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is no aether.
>>>> Electromagnetic waves propagate through nothing at all,
>>>> suggesting to me, at least, that they, and their fields, are
>>>> nonphysical.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then all forces are non physical.
>>>
>>> But with comp nothing is physical in the sense I am guessing you are
>>> using.
>>> All *appearance* are, or should be explain, by (infinities of) discrete
>>> number relations. The physical does not disappear, as it reappears as
>>> stable
>>> and constant observation pattern valid for all sound universal numbers.
>>>
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Can we say that physical particles are often localised volumes
>> that are full of "infinities of discrete number relations"
>> and that a "flux density of infinities" can flow between them.
>> Or is that overboard?
>> Richard
>> points and lines
>> word geometry?
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
>>>> 1/9/2013
>>>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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