On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well Roger, > > Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to. > > Think of the number infinities in terms of a > static MWI deterministic Block Universe BU. > > The number infinities exist in the monad relationships > at various levels and places in monad space, the Mind space of the BU > One could speak of a static density of monad infinities in Mind space. > > "A". Since it's mathematically true that matter evolves from these infinities, > The conjecture is that analog quantum waves and fields > are variations in the density of the infinities > of the monad number relationships. > > "B". Many strong infinities may occupy a very small region of Mind space. > The conjecture is that they may become discrete particles > including physical particles, ie., the Mind space is both analog and digital. > > Such strong infinities may also have the property of 1- dimensional flow. > Then the points of strong infinity in Mind space may couple to the flow. > resulting in a geometry suggestive of Indra's Net of Pearls

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and such points and lines suggest string theory. > > The collapse problem is to get from A to B. > "A" happens in the analog Mind space > where the number infinities are continuous. > > Since the monads in the Mind space are a BEC > where thoughts happen instantly for lack of friction, > we can imagine that the infinities could collapse instantly. > > But mathematically it is necessary for all relevant infinities, > except those at the point of interaction, > to be normalized or cancelled. > > Feynman metaphorically first quantized the monad number infinities. > That is, he allowed all the monad wave function infinities > to collapse to every possible quantum particle > that could be created by the interaction. > Apparently the Mind has the same ability. > > He then cancelled all of these collapsed quantum particles but one > by allowing their anti-particles to come back from the future. > So only one particle becomes physical. > > (If Feynman can renormalize QED, the Quantum Mind certainly can) > > Because in a Block Universe there is no future. > There is no time or consciousness. > nothing is happening. > > Or equivalently we can think of a Quasi-Block Universe QBU, > where everything happens instantly in a 1p perspective. > There is still no time or consciousness. > > Time is created when "conscious free will" choices > force the BU to recalculate like your auto GPS. > > The hard problem is knowing > where "conscious free will" comes from. > > It could come from Godelian incompleteness > or it could come from biological complexity > exceeding the universal calculational capacity, > > But in the end the magic of consciousness > requires a 1p leap of faith. > > > NB: if MWI is true all the cancelled quantum particles > continue to create measure as if they were never cancelled, So one or the other is true > > > yanniru > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >> Hi Richard Ruquist >> >> Sounds a little fantastic to me, but what do I know ? >> >> >> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >> 1/10/2013 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Richard Ruquist >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2013-01-09, 10:29:00 >> Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? >> >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >>> >>> On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: >>> >>>> Bruno, >>>> >>>> Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, >>>> space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). >>> >>> >>> Space-time remains physical, here. >>> >>> >>>> There is no aether. >>>> Electromagnetic waves propagate through nothing at all, >>>> suggesting to me, at least, that they, and their fields, are >>>> nonphysical. >>> >>> >>> Then all forces are non physical. >>> >>> But with comp nothing is physical in the sense I am guessing you are >>> using. >>> All *appearance* are, or should be explain, by (infinities of) discrete >>> number relations. The physical does not disappear, as it reappears as >>> stable >>> and constant observation pattern valid for all sound universal numbers. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >> >> Can we say that physical particles are often localised volumes >> that are full of "infinities of discrete number relations" >> and that a "flux density of infinities" can flow between them. >> Or is that overboard? >> Richard >> points and lines >> word geometry? >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >>>> 1/9/2013 >>>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Everything List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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