On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:01 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 1/10/2013 2:28 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:15 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  On 1/10/2013 1:58 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>> Hi Craig,
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>>  I tend to agree with what you say (or what I understand of it). Despite
>> my belief that it is possible to extract memories (or their 3p shadows)
>> from a brain, I do not believe in the neuroscience hypothesis that
>> consciousness emerges from brain activity. I'm not sure I believe that
>> there is a degree of consciousness in everything, but it sounds more
>> plausible than the emergence from complexity idea.
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>> Do you agree that intelligence requires complexity?
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>  I'm not sure intelligence and complexity are two different things.
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> Of course they're two different things. An oak tree is complex but not
> intelligent. The question is whether you think something can be intelligent
> without being complex?
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I don't agree that an oak tree is not intelligent. It changes itself and
its environment in non-trivial ways that promote its continuing existence.
What's your definition of intelligence?


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> Brent
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