On Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:33:06 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
>  On 1/10/2013 4:23 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: 
>  Do you think there can be something that is intelligent but not complex 
>> (and use whatever definitions of "intelligent" and "complex" you want).
>  A thermostat is much less complex than a human brain but intelligent 
> under my definition.
> But much less intelligent.  So in effect you think there is a degree of 
> intelligence in everything, just like you believe there's a degree of 
> consciousness in everything.  And the degree of intelligence correlates 
> with the degree of complexity ...but you don't think the same about 
> consciousness?
> Brent

I was thinking today that a decent way of defining intelligence is just 
'The ability to know "what's going on"'. 

This makes it clear that intelligence refers to the degree of 
sophistication of awareness, not just complexity of function or structure. 
This is why a computer which has complex function and structure has no 
authentic intelligence and has no idea 'what's going on'. Intelligence 
however has everything to do with sensitivity, integration, and 
mobilization of awareness as an asset, i.e. to be directed for personal 
gain or shared enjoyment, progress, etc. Knowing what's going on implicitly 
means caring what goes on, which also supervenes on biological quality 
investment in experience.


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