On Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:17:12 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 1/24/2013 9:44 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:13:25 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> On 1/23/2013 5:53 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> I guess you are serious, but I can't imagine how you can actually believe >> that. You think that you turn the Mars rover on and there is some entity >> there which has an expectation about 'Mars' or Earth. It really doesn't. >> There is no entity there >> >> >> So you repeat, ad nauseum. >> > > ...and you deny. > > > But I give a reason for my idea. That things that act intelligent are > intelligent. You just complain that they can't be because...? >
That isn't a reason, it's naive realism. Wood alcohol acts like vodka too, but they aren't the same thing, and it turns out to be an important distinction if you are getting drunk. > > >> >> - just a collection of probes and logic circuits. Without humans to >> interpret the data coming out of it, it would be obvious that it is as >> unconscious as a stone. >> >> >> No it wouldn't. It has nothing to do with 'the data coming out'. It >> knows about Mars because it can navigate on Mars and accomplish things on >> Mars (which is more than you can do) and anybody watching it would conclude >> that. >> > > Then a cadaver knows about rigor mortis. > > > We can only know that if the cadaver can act on the knowledge - maybe > you've seen too many zombie movies. > It does act on its knowledge - by lying very still. Craig > > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/LumB1Vm27c4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

