On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:45:12 PM UTC-5, JohnM wrote:
>
> Roger: it is obvious that you have not understand a word of my post. Did 
> it feel good to mention it as "far left"? My experience is balanced, I was 
> a victim of right and left (and also of the so called middle) in my latest 
> 75 years of active life on 3 continents. 
> Please try to understand what you read.
> John Mikes
>

Far Left = Hitler, Robert Redford, libraries, Pol Pot, people who eat 
vegetables, Barack Obama, the Bubonic Plague, things that aren't good, dark 
things, women.

Left = Far Left

Progressive = Far Left

Moderate = Far Left

Far Right = Does not exist

Conservative = Heroes, hard workers, patriots, businessmen, wealthy old 
people, anti-communists, God, Jesus.



> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Roger Clough <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>>  Hi John Mikes 
>>  
>> That's the argument of the Far Left, that miltary strength 
>> induces our enemies to attack us, so we should cut back on 
>> defense spending. And any defensive actions we have made 
>> in the past only count against us.  
>>  
>> Since we are dealing with fanatics. you could be right,
>> but my personal opinion is that they hate us anyway,
>> so cutting back will not improve things, and is less
>> likely to deter them. 
>>  
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>> *Time:* 2013-01-28, 15:04:01
>> *Subject:* Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry
>>  
>>  Not with (money/power hungry) politicians we have nowadays. That, maybe 
>> a "Superior firepower" brings up competition and - maybe - crimes like the 
>> 9-11-2001 especially if some religious self-sacrifice can be included. 
>> Imperialism has its new formats, e.g. to rule over natural resources (raw 
>> materials) and labor-power abroad. 
>> Such was the Taliban negotiation in 2001 with the Cheney-group(?), 
>> allegedly leading to a required standstill in FBI etc. surveillance - when 
>> preparations for the attacks were already on their way, as the Washington 
>> visiting Israeli PM allegedly hinted on his visit at that time. 
>> And do not tell me that exercising the superior firepower 6000+ miles 
>> away on the far side of the Globe is to protect the US-soil. 
>> One more thing: fire-power includes also the bombing prowess of a 
>> semi-civilian(?) militant group, as we witness in Iraq - Afghanistan. 
>> Nobody can 'occupy' (pacify) a country with planes, drones or Navy ONLY 
>> with infantry on the ground. And THAT would include women.
>> IMO political diplomacy should make FRIENDS, not victims.
>> JM
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Roger Clough 
>> <[email protected]<javascript:>
>> > wrote:
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>>>  Hi John Mikes 
>>>  You wrongly assume that the killing power of the infantry 
>>> necessarily has to do with imperialism or aggression. I
>>> believe in PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER.
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>>> *Time:* 2013-01-27, 12:31:36
>>> *Subject:* Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry
>>>
>>>   Roger - 
>>> thank you for your clear-minded post. I my add: there is a shortage of 
>>> men for the imperialistic politics the US seems to pursue and without 
>>> resoring to general draft only the female input is hopeful. 
>>> John Mikes
>>>
>>>  On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Roger Clough 
>>> <[email protected]<javascript:>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  The "unfairness" argument爁or allowing women into the infantry
>>>> is emotionally based, thus爃ard to defend against, so that regrettably 
>>>> I fell for it. 燭he argument is that爊ot allowing women into the 
>>>>  infantry is unfair to women because "they are just as good as men" 
>>>> at fighting, and not allowing them in the infantry is unfair to their 
>>>> advancement.
>>>>  This pov has been tested by the Bristih military, and it was withdrawn
>>>> after 18 months because it didn't work. 
>>>>  The function of the military is to insure our national security, not
>>>>  to be fair to women, so that the correct question should be, instead,
>>>> "will allowing women into the infantry improve the killing power of the 
>>>> military ?"
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